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Communism - Enemy Combatant - 04-19-2011 08:01 PM
A lot of people have misconceptions of what a communist society entails, so I thought that I should make a thread to clear up any misnomers.
From the Worker's World Party's booklet, "What is Marxism?"
The latest scientific view is that human beings first evolved from earlier primates more than 200,000 years ago in Africa. Since then we have spread over the whole world. The state first appeared in a few places on the globe about 6,000 years ago.. Before that, and continuing in many parts of the world until recent times, there was a very long period of human development known to Marxists as primitive communism, where people existed without private property or the governments and laws that protect propertied classes. They lived in small groups and shared what little they had. This period is described as primitive because modern technology and science did not exist, and communist because there were no economic classes.
As techniques improved, the eventual accumulation of surpluses lent itself to the development of classes. The development of classes lent itself to class conflict. The privelaged classes sought to secure their rule permanently and developed state-like structures with laws protecting the ownership of property and armed organizations to enforce those laws. In today's world of multi-billionaires and paupers, where there are large standing armies and police agencies, the state has grown to grotesque proportions.
Once the parasitic and outmoded ruling class has been defeated, the technology available even now will have laid the basis for society to start transitioning through the stages of socialism until it reaches a modern form of communism, bases on abundance instead of scarcity. The science of Marxism predicts that as the capitalist states are permanently defeated worldwide and revolutionary workers' states replace them and take up the task of building socialism, the very existance of the state will become unnecessary and the state will start to wither away.
At this point human beings will live in a stateless society without classes, but with the advantages of modern science and technology. This is communism, the final goal of Marxism-Leninism.
RE: Communism - Boboulas - 04-19-2011 08:02 PM
Quote:This is communism, the final goal of Marxism-Leninism.
Cool story bro. want a brewski?
RE: Communism - Enemy Combatant - 04-19-2011 08:35 PM
Communism - hardeep - 05-09-2011 09:19 PM
I feel really bad asking this but I don't really know what Communism is, can someone explain it to me and why America was so against it after the second world war
RE: Comunism - Gezus - 05-09-2011 09:20 PM
Communism*
RE: Comunism - ClichéGuevara - 05-09-2011 09:29 PM
Stateless, classless society with complete workers control over the means of productions.
Because the ideology threatened the US's power structure.
RE: Comunism - hardeep - 05-09-2011 09:43 PM
How did it threaten their power structure?
RE: Comunism - ClichéGuevara - 05-09-2011 09:55 PM
The US power structure is a class system. It's based on the upper and upper middle class' exploitation of the lower middle class and the working class through the means of production. This doesn't happen in a classless society.
In actuality the US's problem was with Socialism, apparently no one could differentiate between Socialism and Communism. People still can't, surprisingly.
RE: Comunism - Asshole - 05-09-2011 10:14 PM
damn boy. read the prince and republic to understand the u.s. power structure, and the wretched of the earth and chomsky to understand marxism. communism is the step that is after socialism, so you cant understand one without the other.
RE: Comunism - ClichéGuevara - 05-09-2011 10:15 PM
Please don't read Chomsky for Marxism. Read the guy who actually scientifically analysed it, Karl Marx.
RE: Communism - Asshole - 05-09-2011 11:37 PM
i meant to have marx in it too. the communist manifesto specifically
RE: Communism - ClichéGuevara - 05-09-2011 11:49 PM
The Communist Manifesto is out of date. Marx himself said the same.