Whats really in vacines?

[kcoll]

"Mercury in any form is toxic. The difference lies in how it is absorbed, the clinical signs and symptoms, and the response to treatment modalities. Mercury poisoning can result from vapor inhalation, ingestion, injection, or absorption through the skin." from http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/819872-overview

MOUNTING EVIDENCE suggests that Thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative in children's vaccines, may be responsible for the exponential growth of autism, attention deficit disorder, speech delays, and other childhood neurological disorders now epidemic in the United States.
By Robert Kennedy Jr. | July 1, 2005 full artical http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editori..._politics/

[Dumbat]

Quote:Mercury in any form is toxic. The difference lies in how it is absorbed, the clinical signs and symptoms, and the response to treatment modalities. Mercury poisoning can result from vapor inhalation, ingestion, injection, or absorption through the skin.

That is a half truth, while it isn't factually inacurate it does distort the reality of the situation.

1st of all - there is a big difference between a molecule and it's composite elements. Mercury as an element is toxic whether solid, liquid, gas, etc... but the molecules which it forms often aren't. It depends on how your system digests it. So while a mercury based molecule may be in the vaccine that doesn't immediately make it dangerous. The same is true for lead or almost any other element/ molecule.

2nd of all - you are totally ignoring the level required for toxicity to be problematic. Almost anything on the planet is toxic in high enough doses. In the 1970's they used to do experiments with mercury in schools, placing liquid mercury on the desk and moving it around with their fingers (usually wearing gloves). The fact that my parents (and probably yours depending on the school) survived inhilation and absorbtion shows that it can be used safely.

As for RFK Jr's quote, I don't know the specific case but do know that US pharmacology is alot more corrupt than the UK's and that some vaccines get through that shouldn't have. Some vaccines are going to cause problems - look at the government endorsed Anthrax ones where at least hundreds died - but that doesn't mean all are dangerous. Plus, as I said before, the risks are often exadurated to make a good story, whether for political or monetary gain.

[kcoll]

all vaccines contain mercury its used as a preservative. and all mercury is toxic in any form, a reason sighted why pregnant women dont get mercury fillings.
it all about exposure to mercury. children now get far more vaccines than needed. sometimes multable vacines at a time.

[ClichéGuevara]

^The use of mercury in vaccines as decreased dramatically over recent years. So not all vaccines contain mercury

[kcoll]

i think youll find they do;Thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative. i could be wrong thou , just looked at the major ones.like mmr that every child gets
please list some that do not tho or some links. reducing mercury ant enougth it should be stoped compleatly.
even if it does effect only a small pesentage of people, that still a lot of kids world wide. there more that i wont go in to. read the kennedy jn full artical it give some good starting points.

[ClichéGuevara]

^I'm sorry but, remember when you told me to my own research?

[kcoll]

what research? i only asked for links. im interested. but like i said reduction ant the point. mercuary should not be given to kids in any form. it is toxic in all its forms. regardless of what dumbat may tell you

[ClichéGuevara]

^Like when I asked for some facts? All I needed was links. Takes literally 2 minutes to find information on the internet.

But when you look at how life expectancy has increased it makes you wonder, are these vaccines that bad? I've had all sorts of vaccines and I'm fine. In fact we've probably all had it, we're all fine

[kcoll]

not every one is fine tho that the point. and people get more vacinations now than when you or i was a kid. i think ive had 4 in my life.
and what links do you want. im happy to give.just ask
if it about the population thing i sugest the book risk if that a link. i dont know what you mean.i do not base my world views on one source. most my posts are off the top of my head , if there not i always try to give links

[Fuzzly Bear]

It seems like there is some kind of correlation between the number of vaccines and the length of life?

[UK-REVOLUTION]

Im glad i'v avoided most my injections only had like 1-3 and they was in primary school

[Undisputed]

This thread could turn a optimist into a pessimist very quickly