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**Djoser** · 10-21-2011, 07:53 PM

It's about lyrical intelligence. Artistic ability.

Lupe is ahead of Tech in terms lyricism. Listen to songs like Failure and it's clear.

Aesop Rock does deserve the #1 spot. Out of the people you listed Younes, Nas is more deserving of the 6 spot or something. Honestly, in comparison to the guys in the list, Nas when he was Nasty would be like...#5. If you count his unreleased tracks.(Deja Vu being one)

**Younes** · (This post was last modified: 10-21-2011 08:07 PM by Younes.)

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s'Why I mentioned him first... but I am kinda shocked he isn't even mentioned in the honorables etc. etc. etc. ... Must be a personal dislike of his music maybe...

I wouldn't dare to say that Mos is better than Slug or Andre... though I think a 9th or 10th spot would be deserved... MF Doom def is number 8 or 7 material though...

**Asshole** · 10-21-2011, 08:14 PM

this is a great fucking list!! saul williams deserved to be number 2 i think. elzhi tupac and chino xl also deserve places. fuck nas, he believes in creationism and that homosexuality is unnatural lol.

**Younes** · (This post was last modified: 10-21-2011 08:17 PM by Younes.)

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Refute artistic talent because you don't agree with his opinion?

somehow I feel kinda hypocritical when I say this... dunno if I ever have done the same... prob did... whats called music elitism nigga...

**Asshole** · 10-21-2011, 08:21 PM

i love him but hes not intellectual thats for sure. smart motherfucker though

**Djoser** · (This post was last modified: 10-21-2011 08:30 PM by Djoser.)

Elzhi would get placed if the list was more focused on wordplay. Or if anything, he would get number 10.

**Younes** · 10-21-2011, 08:32 PM

(10-21-2011 08:21 PM)Lazarus Amaru Zion Wrote: i love him but hes not intellectual thats for sure. smart motherfucker though

So him disagreeing with you makes him unintellectual? I know I have made the same mistake before... but just because a mother fucker doesn't resonate on the same vibration as us doesn't mean he is a stupid mother fucker... There isn't one clever dude on this forum, and the rest a bunch of idiots, because we don't agree with each other...

Though I do agree, some one, or somewhere, there is... would we say? a superior opinion that is more considerate to the facts than other opinions... that floats around... but I doubt any one of ours is that opinion...

**Asshole** · 10-21-2011, 08:33 PM

chino xl is a mensan and has some of the best lyrics in the past two decades

**Djoser** · 10-21-2011, 08:36 PM

Nas is still one of the best to spit. Just listen to Nas during his Nasty days. You can go Escobar to get a better view.

**Gezus** · 10-21-2011, 08:43 PM

(10-21-2011 08:33 PM)Lazarus Amaru Zion Wrote: chino xl is a mensan and has some of the best lyrics in the past two decades

He should use his mensan intellect for something useful. Instead of wasting it on his shitty rap career.

Quote:Factors that I did NOT include when making my decisions were things like ... ability to read a thesaurus

Lmao. We all know he said that shit for Canibus, who he kept in honorable mentions, instead of putting in the list. He shouldn't even be in honorable mentions to be honest. But it is his opinion.

Interesting list. Most of them I don't listen too but have heard of them.

**Djoser** · 10-21-2011, 08:53 PM

Big words doesn't create imagery or lyricism that's like El-P's or Aesop's. It's not the words you use, but how you use them.

and I just noticed something.

Why the fuck isn't Qwel or anyone from Typical Cats in that list? Qwel and/or Denizen Kane would be right behind or above Eyedea.

**TheMythOfSisyphus** · 10-21-2011, 08:56 PM

Who's dissin us?
Yo punks you wait... I punctuate
My karma's the comma
That puts you inside a coma
Hyphen, dot, dot, semi-colon,
leave you semi-swollen
Question, are you pregnant?
Oh your not? I love you, period.

I'm not even really that big of a fan of his but this shit was hot.