The plain truth without imagination

[eninn]

(04-26-2012 03:34 AM)YaelTheGreat Wrote:  I have started reading the Qur'an I am enjoying it, there are a lot of great lesson if you are reading it with an open mind and not looking for something bad in it.

Thank you my dear brother
This gives me great pleasure

God has guided you to the right


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J-9dn3_h...re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjZneNRzV90

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBeoBa4OC0w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFt0Q2vPLqI

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The bible is quite plain at times , that some have a religion right for them and another right for others, editing of the bible is in fact a fallacy, its been edited for X amount of reason, but each edit i have come across the meanings and words all equate to same thing, i will NEVER change my religion, tis not my problem if X amount of people do not understand how to understand My religion or others, its theirs.

So ill kindly refuse, and wish you all the best.


God has guided you to the right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK0SztzvC...re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhDUlbD9Y...re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIRgNCJN8...re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WRQUyrN0...re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p86P2DuVHs

[YaelTheGreat]

(04-27-2012 06:48 PM)Introcluse Wrote:  how am i an atheist, when i said you can't disprove any deity ?

to be an atheist is to be certain a deity doesn't exist, just like a theist says they're certain a deity exists.

I'm not really a fan of labels as they project a persona on a person for lazy people to think they know you without getting to know you but if I was any religious label I'd be an apathiest, I find the question of deities existing insignificant & pointless, cos no evidence exist of 1 to the five primary senses just as I find the existence of fairies insignificant and pointless cos there's no evidence of fairies to the 5 primary senses.

Yet everything you post on here is focused on calling Religious people stupid morons, you are one lazy, hypocritical young, or old, man. Your one funny nigga.

[eninn]

(04-26-2012 09:44 PM)OnlyTheFaithful Wrote:  Both is wrong you have to read them from coorect contexts and view points looking and trying to except and understand what the fuck is going on.

theres no point in reading it if u dont try and understand it, and pick and choose what makes sense.

1 thing which the bible makes clear for us is that- there will be no more religion wrote until prophesy is fulfilled and its been that way for 1700 years

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WRQUyrN0...re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p86P2DuVHs

[eninn]

(04-26-2012 09:57 PM)Introcluse Wrote:  @eninn

the quran is absurd and LOL material, wake up out of your mental slavery.

According to the quran the following things talk

planet earth (41;11)

human skin(41;21)

human hands (36;65)

ant(27;18)

Eninn i got some questions 4u..

do you believe body parts other then the mouth have conversational capabilities?
Is there even been any kind of evidence of human hands or skin talking ?
do you believe ants can talk ?
do you have any recorded audio of ants communicating using words ?

wait a minute ANTZ CAN REALLY TALK, THIS PROVES IT !
ALL PRAISE BE TO DREAMWORKs !

Infidel

Day of Resurrection

Lying
On God
God will
Makes
Skin and hands and legs
Infidel
Says
All actions of this
Infidel

God Almighty
Says in the Quran

(24) On a Day when their tongues, their hands and their feet will bear witness against them as to what they used to do
(25) That Day, Allah will pay them in full their deserved recompense, and they will know that it is Allah who is the perfect in justice
Pronounced everything

Says Almighty God
Of the heavens and the earth
He created the heavens and the earth
God says in the Quran
11. Then He Istawa (rose over) towards the heaven when it was smoke, and said to it and to the earth: "Come both of you willingly or unwillingly." They both said: "We come, willingly."


Prophet Solomon (PBUH)
Asked God to give him

This king
To speak with birds, animals and elves
And ants
God says in the Quran



35. He said: "My Lord! Forgive me, and bestow upon me a kingdom such as shall not belong to any other after me: Verily, You are the Bestower."

36. So, We subjected to him the wind, it blew gently to his order whithersoever he willed,

37. And also the Shayatin (devils) from the jinns (including) every kind of builder and diver,

38. And also others bound in fetters.

39. [Saying of Allah to Sulaiman (Solomon)]: "This is Our gift, so spend you or withhold, no account will be asked."

40. And verily, he enjoyed a near access to Us, and a good final return (Paradise).


18. Till, when they came to the valley of the ants, one of the ants said: "O ants! Enter your dwellings, lest Sulaiman (Solomon) and his hosts crush you, while they perceive not."

19. So he [Sulaiman (Solomon)] smiled, amused at her speech and said: "My Lord! Inspire and bestow upon me the power and ability that I may be grateful for Your Favours which You have bestowed on me and on my parents, and that I may do righteous good deeds that will please You, and admit me by Your Mercy among Your righteous slaves."
You must
To study the Koran
And interpretation of the Koran

[Introcluse]

@yael I've never called religious people morons, religious beliefs are moronic but not the followers of religions. Nobody is a victim to religious ideology more then the followers of the religion who are entrenched in mental slavery

Similarly I dislike capitalism as an ideology, but that doesn't mean I have a prejudice toward pro-capitalists.

[OnlyTheFaithful]

(04-28-2012 11:50 PM)Introcluse Wrote:  @yael I've never called religious people morons, religious beliefs are moronic but not the followers of religions. Nobody is a victim to religious ideology more then the followers of the religion who are entrenched in mental slavery

Similarly I dislike capitalism as an ideology, but that doesn't mean I have a prejudice toward pro-capitalists.

the biggest fools of religion are the ones who clearly dont under stand it - the american westboro baptists surely! but in a world full of inequality extremity is Always present yes?!

[Introcluse]

[OnlyTheFaithful]

answer the question ,ffs!

[YaelTheGreat]

Aren't you equally ignorant, and arrogant, in propagating that religion is the most horrible thing ever, while rejecting it without at least acknowledging the good it has, is, and can do? Yes, there are many bad things in these texts, but there are many, many people that have not had these texts forced down their throats and therefore have explored the texts and found good in them, have used them for inspiration, and have lived great fulfilling lives through them. Their are of course people who hate gays because of it, who kill people because of it, but are they the majority, or the people in power who hold these views imposing their enforcment? Is it really religions fault that ignorant people use the text for their own personal goals? There are many, many people who do not believe in anyhting yet still commit heinous and disgusting acts. How about we focus less on religion and more on the system we live in that helps foster and grow ignorance regardless of belief? Because I can bet that if our power, economic, and educational structure were different, so would the use of these texts.

Kind of a rant so forgive mistakes and shit, don't feel like checking through it.

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