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~~JAE~~ · (This post was last modified: 02-20-2010 02:07 AM by JAE.)

ZionRevolution thinks he can do a hit and run by leaving the forum... hahahaha pathetic.

It's just funny how people are so quick to criticize Islam... I'm aware EVERY religion gets it, but for some reason Islam is always first to be targeted.

There ain't no point replying to this fool, he ain't coming back to read anyway.

All I gotta say is...

Quote:Misinterpreted by the media, like Islam

- Immortal Technique, The Rebel

Islam is by far the most misunderstood System of Life in the Universe.

Quote:"Islam began as something strange, And it shall return to being something strange. So give glad tidings to the Strangers!" [Sahih Muslim]

Prophet Muhammad PBUH

I think the following link which Shakur posted, is a website y'all should check out.

http://www.misconceptions-about-islam.com/

Peace.

**shakur420** · (This post was last modified: 02-20-2010 03:27 AM by shakur420.)

^yeah the list there is a good start. Just for the basic, common misinterpretations that are usually given. The best way is to see for yourself and make up your own mind on what the Quran says.

(02-19-2010 09:20 PM)Lilchinotws Wrote: ...ima grab a copy of the quran...
Peace

This is the best computer version I've come across. Small file to install. Really wicked cause you can read it it tons of languages. Even Espanol, guey. You can have up to 4 different translations displayed at the same time, I think. It's nice and simple to use.
http://www.agnatemoslem.net/

**Malayo-Polynesian** · 02-20-2010, 10:57 AM

(02-18-2010 11:24 PM)Subé Wrote:
(02-18-2010 11:01 PM)ZionRevolution Wrote:
(02-18-2010 09:10 PM)Subé Wrote:
(02-18-2010 06:51 PM)ZionRevolution Wrote: Islam is not a religion. Islam is similar to the Vatican, they are more of a political, economic and social force even if it wasn't supposed to be that in the beginning. I should be able to draw a picture of Mohammed, slab it with bacon, and flush it down the toilet. It's my right and it's your right to do the same to whatever religious figure you want to. When Muslims riot and kill people for doing whatever they want in a Muslim or non Muslim country - it's wrong.

Islam is hilarious. I've read some verses and they just don't make sense at all. Of course it is like that with many religions though. The Islamic religion is not our Western culture and has no place in the West anyways. Opression of women and honor killings have no place in a free Democratic country or any Judeo-Christian based Western country.

even a jew would spit in your face for saying that shit

What the hell did I say wrong? I'm saying that Islam has turned into a Vatican-like religion like Catholicism. I also said that I should be able to say whatever I want about Islam. What's wrong with that? I could say whatever I want about any religion. It's my right to freedom of speech and when Muslims start killing people or threatening people who don't agree with their religion - they are breaking our human rights.

Islam HASNT turned

Islam WAS turned

difference bro, islam is always what it states, at a fixed position, now when people change it, it is not islams fault, it is the manipulator

and you can say whatever you want dawg, but how are you so sure you are right ?

third of all, if you are using freedom of speech, at least have the decency to respect all of the children that have blindly followed their paternal figures into dying for their beliefs

don't go around minimizing your people as if they have never held a gun

say what you want, but in a respectful way, not how you wrote above.

all religions have ethics and morals, you lack that

^got em. this is what i've been trying to tell people...

**Boboulas** · 02-20-2010, 02:28 PM

This is a good debate

**Gezus** · 02-20-2010, 10:26 PM

^ was a good debate. zion said he was leaving.

**Fuzzly Bear** · 02-21-2010, 05:10 PM

This is one of many sites with a fair bit of info.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

(does anybody see the irony in the claims that Islam is a religion of peace by someone calling themselves 'Muslim Soldier'?)

**Boboulas** · 02-21-2010, 05:44 PM

Why would anyone call any religion a "religion of peace". wtf

does that even mean?

No one should take any holy book serously as they practicly contradict themselves in another page. "love thy neighbor" "fight in the name of god" anyone with any sense can see that religon is a waste of time.

~~JAE~~ · (This post was last modified: 02-21-2010 06:24 PM by JAE.)

(02-21-2010 05:10 PM)HamishFTW Wrote: This is one of many sites with a fair bit of info.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

(does anybody see the irony in the claims that Islam is a religion of peace by someone calling themselves 'Muslim Soldier'?)

Hahahaha that was funny...

Yo Hamish I'm a moderator and part of my responsibility is to keep the cool and peace around here. So I ain't gonna flip and give crap at you but I am gonna ask you this...

Since when I did represent the whole of the Muslim population and since when did I represent Islam single handedly?

Using my username to claim an irony in the statement that Islam is a religion of peace, is not very intelligent at all.

Peace.

It's funny how Islam has been targeted at least 4 times within the span of 1 week, on this forum...

I understand that ALL religions are targeted, no doubt..... And neither is there a doubt that Islam is the first in line to be targeted.

Try to keep the peace people.

PEACE.

**onesixtyfive** · 02-21-2010, 06:47 PM

The Corruption Of Islam Has Started Same With What They Did To Judaism And Christianity, Religions Real Enemy Is Governments That Want Control, I Love How People Twist Up Religion, Ive Read Most The Bible N Torah But I Lean More Towards Islam

Ask Your Self This Everything Ever Made Had A Creator Whos Ours ????

**Malayo-Polynesian** · (This post was last modified: 02-21-2010 08:52 PM by Malayo-Polynesian.)

^Biggup! What he said. Not everyone is going to believe in God and that's fine, but religions do have many good wisdom that people could benefit from. Being peaceful doesn't mean being defenseless. Islam also teaches self-defense, this is where the logic comes in and you don't need to have a religion to comprehend that. But the intentions is for the good of mankind not destruction of it. People can accept and incorporate some if not all of the beneficial aspects of religions and not have to necessarily believe in The Creator.

(02-21-2010 05:10 PM)HamishFTW Wrote: This is one of many sites with a fair bit of info.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

(does anybody see the irony in the claims that Islam is a religion of peace by someone calling themselves 'Muslim Soldier'?)

So a Muslim wrote this? Bill O'Riley is always right. Tech and his message is a fake. The Spaniards and other Europeans conquered and converted non-Europeans to save them and make them Christians, right? They never wanted the gold, land, other resources or people for slaves? The Atheist Communist revolution in China and Russia claimed a better life and government for the people without bloodshed, never had innocent people and people opposing them executed and no one was ever killed or oppressed during those revolutions? This also explain why the Tibetans and Uyghurs are free and ruling their own homeland. The Americans is also trying to create peace by going to wars and ever since it happened no one had ever died or killed on the opposition side. So when Hitler took over Germany, his intentions was for the good of the German people and he really never exterminated the Jews or anybody that went against him. When the Allied Forces and countries that stood up and put up a fight to stop the Nazis, they were in the wrong for defending themselves or for attacking. The European kingdoms during the middle ages also never went to war with each either and they were all peace loving people that never expanded their empire.

**Fuzzly Bear** · (This post was last modified: 02-21-2010 10:27 PM by Fuzzly Bear.)

You're right, and the Qur'an doesn none of these things:

Drawing a distinction between one’s own identity group and those outside it
Moral comparison based on this distinction
Devaluation or dehumanization of other groups and the insistence of personal superiority
The advocating of different standards of treatment based on identity group membership
A call to violence against members of other groups

Since when did I claim that you represent the whole of the Muslim population Muslim Soldier? Promoting peace whilst calling yourself a soldier is somewhat oxymoronic.

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2010/0...01004.html
raping children is cool

Also I should think that the reason attacks on Islam amongst all the religions are so common is that Islam amongst all the religions is mentioned the most.

**shakur420** · 02-22-2010, 01:08 AM

The whole "peaceful" question is very simply answered by logic. Is it not a peaceful act to defend yourself and others? If your motives are not aggression, then you are peaceful, no? Being "peaceful" is not a synonym for "being pussy". The excuse of non-violence is more often than not used as an excuse for cowardice. I'm too lazy to find what I've posted aroung here about Gandhi, but look up his works and he'll tell you.

Next step, check the Quran for what it says about violence and killing.