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**EndoFury** · 11-02-2011, 04:37 AM

It's just the simplest cerebral cop-out to invoke the idea of God to explain this amazing experience. It's an attempt to create a reflection of one-self as an ideal that is exempt from mortality.

**PRCTDM** · 11-02-2011, 05:06 AM

Until we refuse a god in our own image we cannot attribute much at all. All species are as much a part of god as we are. And all the nonliving beings as well and everything else in the universe we don't understand. The natural earth (the universe) and ourselves are the only lens through which we can see god and I feel our western society has a primative understanding of both these things and thats probably a good part of why we are so lost.

**EndoFury** · 11-02-2011, 05:15 AM

(11-02-2011 05:06 AM)PRCTDM Wrote: Until we refuse a god in our own image we cannot attribute much at all. All species are as much a part of god as we are. And all the nonliving beings as well and everything else in the universe we don't understand. The natural earth (the universe) and ourselves are the only lens through which we can see god and I feel our western society has a primative understanding of both these things and thats probably a good part of why we are so lost.

Yes. I agree. The whole concept of God the way people invent it is fucking us up. We need to let go of the concept completely and worship the sanctity of life and build a heaven on Earth.

**PRCTDM** · 11-02-2011, 05:20 AM

Earth is a pretty good canvas to paint heaven, but we try to control to much instead of just contributing.

**mouayad_bullets** · 11-02-2011, 06:25 PM

(11-01-2011 06:53 PM)YaelTheGreat Wrote: It is more arrogant to think that you that as a fact. Nobody can prove the big bang, or God. And nobody can prove that God did not create the big bang. We can only ask deep and philosophical questions to explore the ideal of God and its basis in our lives and realities. That is all.

exactly!!!
but most people these days wont listen to any religious comments or ideologies or whatnot ....i think this because people just dont trust religion anymore due to some people who misuse it and give it a bad name

**Djoser** · 11-02-2011, 06:34 PM

some views of god are too narrow. That's why I like and admire indigenous cultures' views of god and/or the supernatural. It was more earthly, self-empowering, and helpful to the planet. It's something I respect

However, even with the belief in god, some people put too much emphasis and focus on God and forget to look at everything else.

**EndoFury** · 11-02-2011, 08:52 PM

(11-02-2011 06:25 PM)mouayad_bullets Wrote:
(11-01-2011 06:53 PM)YaelTheGreat Wrote: It is more arrogant to think that you that as a fact. Nobody can prove the big bang, or God. And nobody can prove that God did not create the big bang. We can only ask deep and philosophical questions to explore the ideal of God and its basis in our lives and realities. That is all.

exactly!!!
but most people these days wont listen to any religious comments or ideologies or whatnot ....i think this because people just dont trust religion anymore due to some people who misuse it and give it a bad name

Or it's a bunch of nonsense that isn't founded in reality whatsoever.

~~GetFucked~~ · (This post was last modified: 11-02-2011 09:40 PM by GetFucked.)

(11-02-2011 08:52 PM)EndoFury Wrote: Or it's a bunch of nonsense that isn't founded in reality whatsoever.

This, also, Why the fuck did we have to revive a months old thread with more religious debate.

**High Nigga Pie** · 11-03-2011, 12:29 AM

Because it seems lately that nobody on this forum can eloquently comment on any subject, especially religion. If your answer to Does God exist?, is 'Fuck God', nobody will ever take you serious as an educated person. Simple. Also, don't post if you do not want to talk about it.

**EndoFury** · (This post was last modified: 11-03-2011 01:11 AM by EndoFury.)

(11-03-2011 12:29 AM)YaelTheGreat Wrote: Because it seems lately that nobody on this forum can eloquently comment on any subject, especially religion. If your answer to Does God exist?, is 'Fuck God', nobody will ever take you serious as an educated person. Simple. Also, don't post if you do not want to talk about it.

If you say so. You live in a fantasy land where wishful thinking about something we'll never know the truth of is somehow virtuous, but I don't. The answer to the question "Does God exist?" is as simple as "Does Santa exist?" to me.

It's not a part of the reality I live in and considering it a possibility adds nothing to my experience other than dogmatic traditional ideas about what I should think about when I ponder love, happiness, fear, and mortality. Fuck it, it's for the dopes.

The whole concept of God is a human one. It's so ridiculously simple and pathetic. I said it earlier. It's a way for people to extend themselves into the realm of immortality through their imagination, and a selfish way I might add. What's going on here is greater than your imagination. Truth is stranger than fiction.

**High Nigga Pie** · 11-03-2011, 01:11 AM

It seems that reading is not your strong point. I never stated that I was religious, or that I even believed in God, or Allah. It is simply says a lot about youas a person to not conversate in and argue in a reasonable and educated fashion. Also, your obvious hatred of God and religious shines, and it show how you obviously have an extreme disdain for religion that you are not adequately exploring so that you will no long hate religion. There is never a reason to hate something unless it represent something of importance to you.

**EndoFury** · 11-03-2011, 01:17 AM

Don't insult my intelligence while you condone behavior like pretending something can read your mind when you "pray" and that an imaginary creator loves you if you don't cross it's emotions. Faith like religious faith isn't tolerable in any other area of discourse. Stop putting mythology on a pedestal and coming at me with your weak ad-hominem attacks as if you're some sort of judge of how educated I sound on a fucking message board, faggot.

It is important to me that people cut this shit out so we can move on to the next stage of civilization. Do you think a civilization that could travel the universe still argues over bullshit like tolerance for people making up whatever the fuck they want about God?