Stock market investment

[Boboulas]

Investing in some stocks, any advice about who or where i should invest?

[Djoser]

Are there any holidays nearby? Which company will become more active during a certain period?

[1871]

Megaupload. They are a really safe investment. Honestly.

[Fuzzly Bear]

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[shakur420]

It's wrong if you believe in workers control, rights or a healthy economy, but since we all gotta eat, I been trynna learn, lol. Most important thing seems to be the "price to earnings ratio"/"earnings yield". So like how much the stock costs vs how much the dividends or profits are - your return. A lot of times, cheaper stocks give you a better return on your investment. So if a stock costs $10/share, and the dividend is $1/quarter, you'll make $4/year by spending $10. If a stock has quick growth or something but their dividends are low, or their profits all go back in the company (to sustain that growth or something maybe), you could spend $100/stock but only earn $6/year ($1.50/quarter), for example. So it would make more sense to use your $100 to buy 10 of the cheaper stocks, that would net you $40/year vs dropping the $100 on the more expensive stock.

I don't exactly remember, but I think this is how you decipher the shit (like if you're checking a stock on a page like this). If you look at the PE ratio, it's like 15 something. Those with a lower PE ratio should be "better" stocks, you don't have to spend as much to earn the same percentage. The opposite way to look at it is the "earnings yield", that's a percentage, I guess a 3.6 yield is a 3.6% return on the stock price. This changes too, remember, and 60% return on a $1 dollar stock isn't really that good unless you can by 100,000 of them. 1% on a $100 stock is actually better. Anyways, I'm pretty sure this is one of the important measures of how good a stock is, at least for people like you and me.

It also seems like mutual funds, GICs, etc., are the worst investments, you make almost nothing after inflation is taken into account unless you have really aggressive investments but then the risks are high and you're trusting someone else to make the decisions for you. Bonds seem to be good, lol, unless you're holding shit from economies/countries on the "brink of collapse" (think EU, Greece). If you're a big player, say Warren Buffet, you have leverage, they'll do swaps (credit default swaps) so that they don't go under because they owe large bond holders. They pretty much exchange those bonds with newer ones, extend the date on your bond and sweeten the deal for you, or kiss your ass to help them out, or invoke regulation, whatever. If you're Warren Buffet, it could work for you, for us it might not turn out so well if we were holding Greek or Spanish bonds right now.

This is why I'm lookin at houses, real estate. Overall best return for little risk, if you can rent out your properties it gives you an income stream and allows you to leverage for more property, it allows for growth, just like a business. A house is the only thing a bank will loan you that much money for, hundreds of thousands, to those of us that don't have piles of cash or a business generating massive revenue. You can try a small business loan but you have to do a big song and dance, the business model, etc., etc. and you won't get as much. I can spend 400,000 on a house, the most they would give me - if my credit was good and they liked my business idea, I had collateral like a house, etc. - would be maybe a couple hundred thousand to start a business or something. Getting a house, renting the basement, using that extra income to buy another house (they'll give me a next mortgage) and renting out the top half of the first house and then repeating is the plan. Do this for a few properties and we'll see where it goes, will have equity in a bunch of properties, which will have gone up over a few years of mortgage payments (paid for by tenants' rent), and values will increase. At that point, you'll literally be able to pull hundreds of thousands out, your down payments, increase in equity and increase in value, if you sell the properties. You could do that and use the cash for something, or keep leveraging your assets to get more property, start businesses, whatever.

Remember, I'm just scratching the surface of this so make sure you go out and learn the shit, don't listen to a word I say. I've talked to a bunch of banks about this (real estate), their policies, interest rates, having tenants and leveraging, down payments, etc. I've talked to real estate agents, and people who do this, read about shit and one guy I work with use to be a junior trader at one of the big banks (RBC), so I'm confident enough to try a few things. Just make sure you go out and learn.

[taif dhia]

how long term u talking? best investment, imo, long term, is good, healthy land w/ (sustainable, clean) water source if u can afford it (not claiming we can really "own" land). if not, make some friends. everything else is just a pyramid scheme, so b prepared to lose it all. (if u don't get out in time). think this is some hippie b/s? there are major venture capitalists investing in farmland, that they speculate is safe from climate change, all over the world.... they think they will be the feudal lords of the future.

[Rick Ross 187]

(01-25-2012 03:27 AM)taif dhia Wrote:  how long term u talking? best investment, imo, long term, is good, healthy land w/ (sustainable, clean) water source if u can afford it (not claiming we can really "own" land). if not, make some friends. everything else is just a pyramid scheme, so b prepared to lose it all. (if u don't get out in time). think this is some hippie b/s? there are major venture capitalists investing in farmland, that they speculate is safe from climate change, all over the world.... they think they will be the feudal lords of the future.

man aint no money to be made from this bullshit

[Boboulas]

I don't have anywhere near enough to invest in any land to be honest, it was suggested to me i should buy a flat or something and rent it out but i just don't think its gonna work.

I'm mostly looking to invest in stocks that are well to do in the long term so that basically rules out Europe. My brother invested in Tesco at 320 but they took a bad hit today and yesterday so he had to sell and only got a profit of £100. I'm thinking more long term so maybe technology companies or financial companies?

Quote:Most important thing seems to be the "price to earnings ratio"/"earnings yield".

How do you find this out about a company? How do you find out about dividends?

Overall I'm only really looking to spend about £5-£10k, really unsure and i don't want to lose anything so maybe stick to safer stocks or something?

[YaelTheGreat]

Look into online start-ups, look for ones that you believe could blow-up, because when they, they blow-up fast. Look at Google, Apple.

[shakur420]

Ok, this page I linked up there as an example is like your standard page.
http://www.dailyfinance.com/quote/nyse/s...ration/syy

The company's Sysco, one of our food distributors. I was looking at that a couple months ago when I started trynna learn cause the guy who used to be a broker is our sales guy for that distributor. I wanted a real life example and shit, so I was asking him questions. Every newspaper, especially business ones (this is the same stock from the Wall Street Journal free site http://quotes.wsj.com/SYY#), will have sections. Easiest to search for company names or their symbols but it looks like you can do this right through google. Just google "Sysco stock", and it looks like they just compile shit from a few sources, you can get into one of them to get more details. The PE ratio and yield are given right there. The dividend I'm not sure cause it states that with the yield, lol, maybe the same? On that first link it gives you a dollar amount and a percentage under yield, maybe that's the right info? And then the dividend isn't specified, how often it is, maybe they're all quarterly? It's weird though cause I've heard different shit, some have quarterly, some have annual dividends and some have none at all. I'm not sure, you're asking the wrong guy, like I said I'm super green with this shit. I could ask the dude though, how to decipher one of these pages. Can get back to you by friday or saturday.

As far as what stock, I'm even more in the dark. The only thing I can mention is that I've heard you should look at what universities are researching heavily (right now it's biotechnology, apparently) because that will be the next big technological boom, maybe. lol, then again, it could take years. I've also heard that learning the industry your investing is key. If you're looking at banks, financial institutions, learn about the economy they function in and what the terms are for that industry, who's good, who's not. I would listen to everyone and follow no one's advice. Read the business sections, check out some journals at the library (like science journals if you're gonna invest in biotech firms, for example), google "how to buy the right stocks", etc., etc. Some next kid I work told me about gold, him and his brother had money in gold for years, turned out good, but I've heard that too, gold always goes up over the long term. It's just so fucking expensive now, you're not gonna get much if you drop your money there. Even though he might've been joking, he's right, weapons are really good. I don't see you loosing money on Lockheed stock. And people holding substantial Apple stock are ecstatic today, I would guess, lol. RIM is up in the air, people are all worried and some are suggesting buying stock cause it will eventually go up, high again, unless they keep fucking it up. lol, I've heard that Warren Buffet said something like you gotta have the balls to buy when everyone else is selling, don't know how true it is but it makes sense. If you got that much money to fuck with, take your time, learn. I'll try to get some info from the guy I work with on how to compare stocks, how to decipher the info and stuff, will hit you back.

[KRIM_TACTIKS]

stockmarket? lol

buy gold.

[taif dhia]

(01-25-2012 05:18 PM)bailey_187 Wrote:  man aint no money to be made from this bullshit

really? Soros disagrees with you, has been dropping gold for farmland, as well as many others....

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-10...gains.html

but they are planning pretty far ahead, short term, u may be right. and you have to get enough $$ together, although in some parts of the world land is pretty damn cheap. i was looking at acres of forest, w/ good water, up in canada for 10-15 g's$.