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**Gezus** · 09-18-2010, 07:11 AM

?!really? one does not know of god until told about him. if you grew up in the fucking woods alone you would not know of god and religion. i(like everyother human being on this fucking planet) went from not knowing about god(the moment of birth) to knowing about god(some point in childhood when either parents mentioned him or school or whoever) to knowing about him. it is from that point in which you are either a believer or not.

i really dont see how you can say one is born believing in god when they dont even know of god until told about him. its the normal inclination that they dont know about god until told about god.

**Crazyalaa** · (This post was last modified: 09-18-2010 09:34 AM by Crazyalaa.)

I don't get. Didn't u ever started thinking about the universe, how big it is, how beautiful it is. U never thought that all we have in this life wasn't actually created from nothingness. That perhaps Humans, Animals, Plants and everything is in fact a creation of one or a supreme being. It's absurd to think that this universe was created from an explosion alone, I mean it has be created by something else. I don't get how ppl argue that there isn't a God or religion. I mean just sit down and think, forget wat those TV bitches tell or wat the stupid atheists say.

**palestiniandood** · 09-18-2010, 09:41 AM

Allah is the greatest

**Gezus** · (This post was last modified: 09-18-2010 09:52 AM by Gezus.)

(09-18-2010 09:33 AM)Crazyalaa Wrote: I don't get. Didn't u ever started thinking about the universe, how big it is, how beautiful it is. U never thought that all we have in this life wasn't actually created from nothingness. That perhaps Humans, Animals, Plants and everything is in fact a creation of one or a supreme being. It's absurd to think that this universe was created from an explosion alone, I mean it has be created by something else. I don't get how ppl argue that there isn't a God or religion. I mean just sit down and think, forget wat those TV bitches tell or wat the stupid atheists say.

^ your arguments blow dick big time. stop bringing up TVs and atheists. its a fact that you ain't born believing in God. you have no idea of God until someone tells you about him. Period. i remember when my sister asked who God was coz my dad mentioned God. she didnt come out the fucking womb yellin AMEN. thinking someone magically knows about God when they born is retarded. the end.

**Crazyalaa** · 09-18-2010, 09:58 AM

Lol, "blow dick big time"! Nvm I think u should believe in watever u want.

**palestiniandood** · 09-18-2010, 10:05 AM

KABOOOOOOM...holy shit! its people!

**Gezus** · (This post was last modified: 09-18-2010 10:13 AM by Gezus.)

(09-18-2010 09:58 AM)Crazyalaa Wrote: Lol, "blow dick big time"! Nvm I think u should believe in watever u want.

^ it has nothing to do with what i believe in. im not saying anything about which religion is best. which is true. none that. just stating the fact that one does not know of god until told about god.

(09-18-2010 10:05 AM)palestiniandood Wrote: KABOOOOOOM...holy shit! its people!

^ lol? random?

**Enemy Combatant** · (This post was last modified: 09-18-2010 11:54 AM by Enemy Combatant.)

aiyyo calm down everyone!
ayt Gezus, think of Islam as the natural religion. We're born Muslims, and all other living things on this planet are also Muslim.
When we're born we got an innate sense of God called "Fitrah". If the kid were left alone then it would grow aware of Tawhid (Oneness of God). So once the baby submits to the physical laws of nature (when it's born), then its soul also automatically submits naturally to Allah. This doesn't mean that you're born praying, giving zakat, and all that jazz (lol), ya just got that innate belief.

**ClichéGuevara** · (This post was last modified: 09-18-2010 01:32 PM by ClichéGuevara.)

If a child were left alone to grow, it would most likely turn to science

**Younes** · 09-18-2010, 02:01 PM

^
I doubt that because science is something we first turned to the last 2 centuries... all time before humanity have dedicated them selfs to some kind of religion or belief, why should a child alone in the woods achieve what it took humanity eons to achive??

**ClichéGuevara** · 09-18-2010, 02:12 PM

(09-18-2010 02:01 PM)IslamicRevolutionary Wrote: ^
I doubt that because science is something we first turned to the last 2 centuries... all time before humanity have dedicated them selfs to some kind of religion or belief, why should a child alone in the woods achieve what it took humanity eons to achive??

We aren't born with this knowledge of God. In fact the majority of children believe what their parents believe. Why would the child be alone in the woods anyway? No one said the child would be alone, it would just be left alone to mentally grow. If you gave a child simplistic reading material for the Bible, Torah and Qu'ran and also gave them simplistic reading material for scientific theories and facts, the child is gonna believe science. Nowadays if an adult tries to indoctrinate a child into a religion the child grows up to be an atheist.

**Younes** · 09-18-2010, 02:21 PM

^
That is a very controversial claim. btw what is ment with a child being born with a natural belief in god, it should be added that this belief is not strong enough to be changed etc. by the parents or enviroment, it have roots in that in Islam, God created the souls and spoke to them, thats why the child is born with that kind of belief. There are many atheist who converted to other religions, for you to say that if they read religious texts and texts with scientific explanation that they would tip to the scientific explanation is bs... the child would tip to what he agrees mostly with. Wether Scientific, religious or spiritual.