Islam: What the West Needs to Know

[justme]

Everything you've always wanted to know about Islam but were afraid to ask. The feature documentary that discovers the basis of Muslim violence in the Koran and the life of Muhammad.

You will be surprise check out the documentary link below


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...=firefox-a

[Boboulas]

Seemed like alot of anti-islamic rubbish to me. How many muslims did they interview?

People seem to forget the endless amount of popes who orderd the crusades and other religous wars. And even IF the koran did preach hate, how many muslims are trying to jihad right now? people of the middle east are about as peaceful and hateful as any other nation.
There are allways gonna be bad eggs in the basket.

[Tawsif]

much of that was bullshit

[onesixtyfive]

lol if you look at what it actually says in the quran in Arabic not English, you will see that most of the killings and when it says behead the unbelievers this that the other, you will realise it is talking for Mohammeds time, where the enemy or unbelievers where coming to kill him cause of his beliefs

so as Boboulas said we are peaceful and hateful as any other nation.

[AK-47]

Oh seriously shut the fuck up and fucking kill yourself. What the fuck is the propaganda bullshit? I would tell you that the bible is almost the same, but your probably some faggot 'revolutionary' atheist.

[delict]

well I consider myself 'faggot reolutionary atheist'

ak47, prove your words or shut the fuck up.

I respect anyones belives until they are harmful in some way but dont fucking force me to belive anything and never thread on me.
every religion is more or less the same in the core. be good man, live good life. the end. no fucking churches, no fucking prayers, and the most importantly - no fucking violance in the name of god.
the most of the peple are just tools...I dont profess any religion because theres too much bullshit around, too much hypocrisy, too much fanatism, too much idiotic rules. so
fuck islam, fuck christianity, fuck judaism. really.

EDIT: Boboulas watch the vid to the end.
Taliban has recently offered 10 years of peace time btw. sounds familiar huh.

[onesixtyfive]

no fucking violence in the name of god. do u believe in god ?

what do u want ak to prove that your video is too much fanaticism

what the fuck is the propaganda bullshit?

I would tell you that the bible is almost the same? - i can prove this for him as ive study Islam and the bible if you look with a open mind it will tell you everything you need to know you don't have to follow any religion

but your probably some faggot 'revolutionary' atheist????????? co-sign

[Boboulas]

(06-29-2009 08:53 AM)delict Wrote:  EDIT: Boboulas watch the vid to the end.
Taliban has recently offered 10 years of peace time btw. sounds familiar huh.

Huh, what does that proove?

Incase you dont know, everyone in the world wants peace, EVERYONE. But whats different is the conditions of peace cus even hitler wanted peace, the taliban want peace ,for what reason i dont know, but they either want peace to make sure they arent wiped out OR to be at an advtanage.

How is anyone taking this documentry seriosly? it exactly the same as the hate documentrys about jews or christans or W/E else.

[onesixtyfive]

there never ganna be peace how is there ganna ever be peace when we don't have peace in our own countrys city's and homes peace
to even make peace do u know how much money the governments will loose in the present day
there will always be someone there to fuck peace up look at history has there ever been a hole year of peace?

even when Jesus Moses Mohammed Noah all the angles n other prophets were on earth there was no peace adam n eve the snake broke there peace

so war is apart of human race for now or should i say its a competition to see what kinda of race/group and what religion/belief is superior

and here somthing to read if delict wanted ak to prove Christians where not violent at all.................. bullshit

Well you had the Roman uprising of the new Jewish messiah sect, then you had the destruction of all the older pagan gods and beliefs, then you had rapid expansion and the subjection of “infidels”. Then you had the crusades, inquisition, slavery, the burning at the stake of witches, scientists, etc. In modern times you have war after war against non Christian nations made by nations that are predominantly Christian and openly proclaim theirs is a Christian nation or founded on Judeo – Christian principles. You had abortion clinic bombings, lynchings, jim crow, the subjugation of women, intolerance, terrorism against federal buildings,terrorism on college campuses, hate speech against many non-christians, etc. All of this in Christian nations. Yet no one is willing to call Christianity a violent religion. i can carry on if u like

[delict]

(06-29-2009 02:47 PM)onesixtyfive Wrote:  do u believe in god ?

yes

(06-29-2009 04:12 PM)Boboulas Wrote:  Incase you dont know, everyone in the world wants peace, EVERYONE.

thats naive think to say. some may want peace but those who want the power are willing to go over the dead bodies, and thats the reason for the constant conflict. human lust.
“When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.”

(06-29-2009 04:12 PM)Boboulas Wrote:  Huh, what does that proove?

that the radical extremists, which are the mostly muslims, has to be dealt with.

(06-30-2009 05:18 AM)onesixtyfive Wrote:  and here somthing to read if delict wanted ak to prove Christians where not violent at all.................. bullshit

no, my point is that if you kill in the name of god, allah or womever you re just fucked in your head.
"praise the lord but pass the ammunition"

[onesixtyfive]

that the radical extremists, which are the mostly muslims, has to be dealt with.

look at history then say that cause i can list the Christian history and compare it to Muslim history to see who killed more and i guarantee Christians have killed more no disrespect to any Christians in this forum but facts are facts

ive been Pakistan and Afghanistan and the people there are all about peace they jus want to live life but the government has different agendas also when i was in Afghanistan i went to a village where the us army was and the people there where telling me how the us where kidnapping people at night saying they where terrorists and showing it on the media

now im not saying the Taliban are not terrorists they are they had a hand in 9-11 there hand was for osama to say he did it so they could invade a country
funny how they still have not caught him and they caught Saddam n not bin laden when he even travled to dubai in 04
say if tomorrow some came to your country to kill n whatever n take over, would u not rally up your own army cause i sure would regardless

heroin is up by 33% in the worlds drug market and all that is coming out of Afghanistan funny when the Taliban where there they burnt the fields down it was 33% lower more an poverty that why the people where pissed saying they want the Taliban out in the words of tech
*I'm from where they lost the true meaning of the Quran, Because heroin is not compatible with Islam. And... Niggaz know that but grow dat poppy seed anyway, Because that food drop parachute dose not cum everyday *

and now people are not complaing so thats why the people in Afghanistan started sayin yeah taliban this that the other for the US cause there just making a living n probibly not have a clue whats going on

you really think a guy in a cave could be so powerful with out any backing ?
the backers are the real extremists putting n a show for the public and now to hate each other by saying n spreading bullshit

(06-30-2009 05:18 AM)onesixtyfive Wrote:  and here somthing to read if delict wanted ak to prove Christians where not violent at all.................. bullshit

no, my point is that if you kill in the name of god, allah or womever you re just fucked in your head.
"praise the lord but pass the ammunition"
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what about when god gave Moses the plague to kill in his name
plague of blood by which the waters of Egypt were turned to blood;
plague of frogs;
plague of lice;
plague of flies;
plague of murrain, by which all the cattle of Egypt and none of the Israelites' cattle were killed;
plague of boils;
plague of hail;
plague of locusts;
plague of darkness, by which darkness covered Egypt for three days;
plague of the first-born, by which all the first-born of Egypt were killed.

and what about when god killed poeple

First is the flood. (Genesis 6-9)
God kills every man, woman, child and animal on earth. The reason given is that the people were wicked - according to research 30million killed im sure at least 100 of them where probably innocent

Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 18-19) God rains fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah, killing everyone. 1000 people approx


Er and Onan (Genesis 38:7-10)
God thought Er was evil, so he killed him. God killed him cause God And what was so evil about him? Why does it not go into detail about what Er did?
Than after the death of Er Judah (his father) told Onan to have sex with Tamar (Ers wife) so that Er’s linage alive but Onan didn’t want knew the child of him and Tamar would not be his so he didn’t want to have children that where not his so he pulled out and God killed him for it.

this list can go on and on and on that over 30million killed and it was the gods will

well u did say u believed in god did u know your do did that ?
prove to me how most Muslims are extremists with facts not no youtube crap can u do that or did u just see that and think extremists ? you can misinterpret something don't just look at one video and think Muslims are terrorist why don't you ask real Muslims what there religion preaches go to a mosque n ask them before u make judgements

also any Muslim that kills himself (suicide) will be sent to hell n killed in that same way everyday cause god gave u life and that's a gift even if they think what they are doing is in gods name they will be punished for taking there own life any real Muslim will know that is there any in this forum ?

[Boboulas]

thats naive think to say. some may want peace but those who want the power are willing to go over the dead bodies, and thats the reason for the constant conflict. human lust.
“When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.”


You didnt see what i wrote, Let me assure you that everyone wants peace but on their conditions. Understand, im very sure that the worlds super powers would love peace if every other country knealt down at their knees.