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**Fuzzly Bear** · 10-02-2011, 07:50 AM

people attribute those with power far greater intelligence and organisation than they probably actually possess. have you not seen these people? getting caught sending pictures of their cocks from phones and fucking the babysitter and wearing stockings and choking themselves whilst wanking and all that.

but maybe it's all just an elaborate ploy, and they really are super clever and devious and do all this stupid shit to deceive us ...

**ClichéGuevara** · 10-06-2011, 05:06 PM

http://www.cracked.com/funny-2262-the-illuminati/

I love satire.

**running929** · 10-18-2011, 01:58 AM

I think they're real, from symbolism to freemasons to satanic hand signs. fuck them, from what i've seen and heard and looked at is that they are real and do exist in the world today.

**1871** · (This post was last modified: 10-18-2011 02:10 AM by 1871.)

Of course they do. Starting from the beginning of this thread page one shakur had the right intuitive sense and this is further proven by my own research - the other posters who questioned the idea largely talked a lot of half researched opinions rather than proper informed sourced research.

To anyone who wants to seriously contribute to this thread start with the Dennis Healey video and the Biafran war. Read it. Research it and THEN post.

**YaelTheGreat** · 10-18-2011, 02:12 AM

Can you post up some good info 1871?

**1871** · (This post was last modified: 10-18-2011 03:02 AM by 1871.)

(10-02-2011 07:50 AM)HamishFTW Wrote: people attribute those with power far greater intelligence and organisation than they probably actually possess. have you not seen these people? getting caught sending pictures of their cocks from phones and fucking the babysitter and wearing stockings and choking themselves whilst wanking and all that.

but maybe it's all just an elaborate ploy, and they really are super clever and devious and do all this stupid shit to deceive us ...

Hamish - by focussingy on one thing you've completely ignored how their financial interests have affected international political policies and international business.

The Lowkey video refers to the arms trade and BAE and Lockheed Martin.
Again:

Check out the Healey video and shakurs GEORGE KENNAN.
MEMO thread on PAGE THREE of Shakurs threads if you want to do some serious reading on this. There's a lot of it but its worth persevering with if you want informed research on the subject. Btw : Bilderberg has been fairly well documented with THEIR OWN documentation while Sanguinnetti has written with authority and references with the connectionbetween Freemasonry, organised crime and political assasination in Italy on the anarchist/Marxist/situationist
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NOTBORED website

http://www.notbored.org/on-terrorism.html

**Fuzzly Bear** · 10-18-2011, 08:35 AM

That is true 71. I was only talking about the politicians. There is undoubtedly a small group of individuals that has an extraordinary amount of power and influence, and undoubtedly there are little groups that help each other out and are merely selfish. What I find unlikely is that these people act from 'ideological' motives and conspire to such ends. But I suppose it's all the same in the end, they want to rule the world and we can't do nuffink.

**1871** · 10-18-2011, 03:52 PM

Except that the grabbing of mineral resources to consolidate and build their own power and the exploitation of the weak is ideological - especially if its countered by an alternative view and ideology of how things should be. I expect that's why you find that Royalty are Freemasons and Bilderbergs and form other arcane and exclusive societies.

**Fuzzly Bear** · 10-18-2011, 04:25 PM

yea i realised that as i was typing. ahwell. all that really matters is how i go about joining

**1871** · 10-18-2011, 04:51 PM

Invitation only isn't it? I hear certain occupations are favoured. I don't know if they take rent boys..

**macdaddyp** · (This post was last modified: 02-16-2013 10:22 PM by macdaddyp.)

Is it really a conspiracy that those with wealth will use it to influence in order to maintain/ increase their status. Pretty much what Marx predicted, this is not conspiracy theory its capitalistic political theory. Which will always end in monopoly, which ironically kills free market conditions. IMO tho that's what capitalism is, the concentration of wealth resources and ultimately power or to para phrase Al Capone, capitalism is the racket of the elite. Same old, man with big stick or in this case who pays the man with big stick. One thing for sure tho its a complete contradiction, its a theory of infinite growth, at the same time allowing for the mass accumulation of wealth. For getting that the producers are also the consumer, eventually they can not afford to buy the end product which leads to a fall in production.

Any way in regards to the illuminatti, what we are seeing on the world today is a resource war. The main players are in competition not collusion. Where the mega elite may agree on things like slave labor conditions, they all have their own agenda. What's more in the west any corruption of politics is through consent of the masses, people give their governments credit for more power than they actually have.

However my opinion on how the state is run will always differ from yours. So we end up with a system of government that no body wants.

**Asshole** · 02-16-2013, 09:43 PM

(02-16-2013 09:12 PM)macdaddyp Wrote: Is it really a conspiracy that those with wealth will use it to influence in order to maintain/ increace their status. Pretty much what Marx predicted, this is not conspiracy theory its capitalistic political theory. Which will always end in monopoly, which ironically kills free market conditions. IMO tho that's what capitalism is the concentration of wealth resources and ultimately power or to para phrase all Capone, capitalism is the racket of the elite. Same old man with big stick or in this case who pays the man with big stick. One thing for suretho its a complete contradiction, its a theory of infinite growth, at the same time allowing for the mass accumulation of wealth. For getting that the producers are also the consumer, eventually they can not afford to buy the end product which leads to a fall in production.

Any way in regards to the illunatti, what we ate seeing on the world today is a resource war. The main players are in competition not collusion. Where the mega elite may agree on things like slave labor conditions, they all have their own agenda. What's more in the west any corruption of politics is through consent of the masses, people give their governments credit for more power than they actually have.

However my opinion how the state is run will always differ from yours. So we end up with a system of government that no body wants.

word.