I Hope Someone Can Help Me Understand The Following..

[ClichéGuevara]

It's not counter revolutionary. It's counter revolutionary from an Anarchist view. Had the situation been reversed it would be counter revolutionary from a Bolshevik view.

This is the biggest problem I can see with any sort of revolution. There are so many different philosophies and sects that if any revolution took place, there'd be a war afterwards. There's always talk about what should be done after a revolution, how society should be shaped, what should be done to ensure the revolution isn't over thrown. It seems no one's addressed this problem.

Rev, stats will eventually be up tonight

[cleef]

(11-23-2010 02:09 PM)Sean Wrote:  It's not counter revolutionary. It's counter revolutionary from an Anarchist view. Had the situation been reversed it would be counter revolutionary from a Bolshevik view.

This is the biggest problem I can see with any sort of revolution. There are so many different philosophies and sects that if any revolution took place, there'd be a war afterwards. There's always talk about what should be done after a revolution, how society should be shaped, what should be done to ensure the revolution isn't over thrown. It seems no one's addressed this problem.

Rev, stats will eventually be up tonight

Killing members of the proletariat is counter revolutionary, an anarchist or bolshevik view should make no difference.

The different philosophies point is definitely something we can agree on and is something i cant understand about the left. The enemy of my enemy isnt always necessarily a friend.

[ClichéGuevara]

Socialists argue with Socialists, I assume Anarchists argue with Anarchists, Socialists argue with Anarchists. There's talk of solidarity between Socialists and Anarchists, but if there's a revolution, that solidarity goes away pretty quickly. This is probably the reason that we won't see change for centuries.

[cleef]

Yeah there seems to be a lot of in fighting, you would think that people would learn from the mistakes of the past

we ultimately want the same thing, it is just ways and means that traditional socialists and anarchists disagree on.

[ClichéGuevara]

Instead of me picking out stats I'll give you a lot of reading material

http://redantliberationarmy.wordpress.co...-the-lies/

http://www.cubasolidarity.com/aboutcuba/...ocracy.htm

http://www.cuba-solidarity.org/democracy.htm

http://www.cubasolidarity.com/aboutcuba/...7unhcr.htm

http://www.zcommunications.org/exit-u-s-...erez-roque

[cleef]

thanks for that Sean

learnt some things i didnt know
(even if i kinda expected them)

[ClichéGuevara]

I can always get more links if needed. I bet Rev, I mean Dr Greenthumb, still won't be happy though haha

[Rev]

No no no thats fine my boy haha

[Fuzzly Bear]

A revolutionary group isn't going to stop with its revolution just because some other people don't like it. C'mon.

[G.nicolas]

You're not revolutionnary if you replace a totalitarian state run by a financial elite by totalitarian state run by a political elite ...