Hitler, Nazism & Islam

[x Nadzy x]

Basically, there are Muslim extremist out there......who will kill. However, this is destined for the Jews...as it's states in the Qu'ran, the Jew's are cursed, they will never find land or a place to call home.

[Younes]

(07-23-2011 09:54 AM)Eazy-E_CPT Wrote:  I heard about it. Hitler and the Islamists had a common goal, killing Jews. Mohammad amin al-husayni offered to help Hitler in the extermination of the Jews. The historian Jeffrey Herf found in the archives more than 6,000 hours of recordings containing a nationalist, anti-Semitic propaganda. These recordings were broadcast by the Nazis in the Middle East for over 70 years ago.

That wasn't because of indentical ideologies, that was because the situation in Palestine at the moment with the British supported emigration of Jewish settlers from Europe and it's purpose of undermining the Palestinians and support a jewish state being made in the British Mandate of Palestine.

[Introcluse]

(07-23-2011 03:23 AM)wise_owl Wrote:  Astrology and astronomy both deal with planets and stars therefore

astrology = astronomy

See what I did there?

If having slight similarities between two things makes them the same, Then you can apply the concept to basically any two things and consider them the same.

what's that got to do with the topic. Poor analogy.

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(07-23-2011 10:59 AM)x Nadzy x Wrote:  Basically, there are Muslim extremist out there......who will kill. However, this is destined for the Jews...as it's states in the Qu'ran, the Jew's are cursed, they will never find land or a place to call home.

Obviously all religious dogma is ancient superstitious made up bullshit, but if you want to look at theologically, there is no theological basis for muslims stealing land in the first place that was promised to Abrahams people by god ie hebrew bible, genesis and i think exodus too).

Islam recognises Jewish & Christian scriptures/dogma. In islam the only parts of those scriptures which are invalid and falsified for islamic doctrine are the parts which are negated in the Quran. ie Jesus being the son of god. Other parts ie the ten commandment islam accepts as they don't contradict islamic dogma.

However the Quran makes no mention of whether the promised land is/isnt for abrahams people or whether it is/isnt for muslims, so for any muslims to take control of the promised land as Caliph Omar did you are essentially breaking rank and superseding your prophet Abraham

[El Mono]

Quote:as it's states in the Qu'ran, the Jew's are cursed, they will never find land or a place to call home.

Really? Where in the Qu'ran, and why?

[Introcluse]

El Mono ain't nothing making fallible prejudice infallible by giving them the backing of the man upstairs.

[Karana]

I've seen hundreds of similarities of Allah and satan aswell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMPwEN7XRg

It's interesting in my opinion watch and enjoy give me a feedback

[1871]

Perhaps you should also present evidence of the many Muslims who lost their lives fighting against Hitler in the Second World War.

[Karana]

Didn't muslims ALSO join forces with hitler and made a muslim "nazi" army ?
Hamas if I remember correctly

[1871]

I worked for the Commonwealth War Graves Commission looking after the files of those soldiers who had died in the struggle against Nazism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Army...rld_War_II

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If that link doesn't work just Google Indian army ww2 wiki.

Did you know that the Indian Army which comprised of Hindu, Sikh, Muslim,Indian/Pakistani soldiers was the largest volunteer army in ww2 to fight against Hitler?

[Karana]

link doesn't work hmm strange

[1871]

Must be an Islamic conspiracy. Google Indian war memorial at goldsworth park community association.

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Indian army reached some 2.5 million from about 200,000 initially.

[1871]

There are Muslims who fought alongside Hitler and there are Muslims who fought against him such as the Free French Army from the French colonial empire of northern Africa.
Troops who fought against Hitler and died on the beaches at Normandy - Muslims.

You'll find Muslims giving support to Hitler. You'll also find the Hazni Affendi - a Muslim resistance group in former Yugoslavia who fought against the Nazis as well as Muslims from other nations who fought fascism.

You'll find atheists and 'Christians' who helped Hitler. You'll also find countless atheists and Christians who were exterminated in Hitlers death camps.

The Nazis were atheists. They believed that religion was corrupting and that National Socialism would replace religion. So - we should consider all atheists Nazis?

Ridiculous claim. Who gives a fuck what Hitler thought anyway.

Introcluse makes the fraudulent claim about their being no distinctions in the minds of Muslims.

Of course its an utterly false claim since there are different Muslims. You would have to account for the fact that in WW2 there were Muslims fighting Muslims. Or that there are Sunni Muslims and Shi-ite Muslims.

How do you reach this conclusion Introcluse? Through your interpretation of the Qu'ran.
Yet I can find you Muslims and atheists who would say your interpretation is incorrect - just as I can point to genocides carried out by atheist regimes who will even cynically manipulate one religion against another to enforce an atheist anti-religion bigotry

http://www.ibiblio.org/expo/soviet.exhib...i_rel.html

where they will cite previous pograms and persecutions as the opportunity for revenge and demonisation, and then continue to murder in the name of atheist ideology:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecuti...viet_Union

Case dismissed.