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**ClichéGuevara** · 09-19-2010, 11:12 PM

(09-19-2010 11:00 PM)HamishFTW Wrote: Mmmm, yea, pretty much.

HEY WHY DON'T I MAKE THEM ALL SICK AND THEN COMMAND THEM TO BE WELL

Meaning of tyrannical; Of or relating to a tyrant or tyranny
Meaning of tyranny; A government in which a single ruler is vested with absolute power.
The office, authority, or jurisdiction of an absolute ruler.
Absolute power, especially when exercised unjustly or cruelly: "I have sworn . . . eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man" (Thomas Jefferson).
Use of absolute power.
A tyrannical act.
Extreme harshness or severity; rigor.

Based on the quote Bob used it's leaning more towards the more extreme tyranny. Prohibiting killing, stealing and lyings isn't negative.

(09-19-2010 11:06 PM)Gezus23 Wrote: well a lot of things seem to support that God is a tyrant.

"SMITE ME OH MIGHTY SMITER!!"

Such as?

**Gezus** · 09-19-2010, 11:22 PM

^ i was referring to all the stuff you guys said... most of it seems to point at him being a tyrant..

**Fuzzly Bear** · 09-19-2010, 11:29 PM

Prohibition is of course negative. Just because you agree with a tyrant's policies it doesn't alter the fact that the tyrant is a tyrant

**ClichéGuevara** · 09-19-2010, 11:34 PM

So your parents are tyrants? You must also be a tyrant too then?

**Younes** · 09-19-2010, 11:34 PM

Well... from a neutral perspective I think this fruit of knowledge was ment to be a test for Adam and Eve... I mean, why else would it be there??

**Gezus** · 09-19-2010, 11:40 PM

well that is a dirty test if i have ever seen...

**Younes** · 09-19-2010, 11:41 PM

^
You just pissed u had to carry all the sins... naaah im jk... but i dunno, he told them not to touch them??

**Fuzzly Bear** · 09-19-2010, 11:44 PM

(09-19-2010 11:34 PM)Sean Wrote: So your parents are tyrants? You must also be a tyrant too then?

Naturally. I am indeed a bit of a tyrant myself. I, however, don't extend my tyranny across humanity.

**El Mono** · (This post was last modified: 09-19-2010 11:44 PM by El Mono.)

He did yes, but if God is omnipotent and loving.

1) Why would he even let Lucifer into the Garden?
2) Why would he stand idly by why the dissident Angel tricked them?
3) Why would God create a being that could disobey him, and then punish them so severely for it?

**ClichéGuevara** · 09-19-2010, 11:53 PM

(09-19-2010 11:44 PM)El Mono Wrote: He did yes, but if God is omnipotent and loving.

1) Why would he even let Lucifer into the Garden?
2) Why would he stand idly by why the dissident Angel tricked them?
3) Why would God create a being that could disobey him, and then punish them so severely for it?

Lucifer and Satan are completely different beings

The answers to your questions are here http://www.gotquestions.org/tree-knowled...-evil.html

God also allowed Satan to tempt Job http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Job

**Djoser** · (This post was last modified: 09-19-2010 11:58 PM by Djoser.)

It is possible that some text explaining is missing. Cain had a wife whose origin is unknown.

If God is omni-scient aka all knowing, wouldn't he have known that the serpent would tempt Eve?

Also since there was a Tree of Good and Evil, evil was already in existence with God simultaneously? Unless you count Lucifer.

**Fuzzly Bear** · 09-20-2010, 12:05 AM

So we have free choice, the free choice to not obey God, yet if we don't obey God we're punished? That does sound quite tyrannical to me.