Gatas Parlament - Boikott Israel Ft. Immortal Technique, & More [June 2011]

[aleXbosnian]

(07-07-2011 01:01 AM)a-k Wrote:  tech is one of my favourite dudes, but he needs to fk off and not stick his nose where it doesn't belong...the israel issue is none of his business and he doesn't even know half of what actually is going on there...following reports online or being told something doesn't give anything credibilty..."believe nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you see"

It's everyones business and how do you know how much Tech knows about it? So what is his "business"? Where does he belong? The place where he was born or raised? So he should keep raping about how he was born in Peru and raised in New York? Just asking as I want to know where he belongs (what he is "allowed" to rap about) and how you can know when something is someones business. He got the right to have an opinion in everything, so why not rap about his opinions?

Can I say Tech isn't your business and you shouldn't talk about him?

[a-k]

(07-07-2011 01:29 AM)aleXbosnian Wrote:  

(07-07-2011 01:01 AM)a-k Wrote:  tech is one of my favourite dudes, but he needs to fk off and not stick his nose where it doesn't belong...the israel issue is none of his business and he doesn't even know half of what actually is going on there...following reports online or being told something doesn't give anything credibilty..."believe nothing of what you hear, and only half of what you see"

It's everyones business and how do you know how much Tech knows about it? So what is his "business"? Where does he belong? The place where he was born or raised? So he should keep raping about how he was born in Peru and raised in New York? Just asking as I want to know where he belongs (what he is "allowed" to rap about) and how you can know when something is someones business. He got the right to have an opinion in everything, so why not rap about his opinions?

Can I say Tech isn't your business and you shouldn't talk about him?

What I'm saying is he's biased. He talks equality, but ignores major aspects that are allowing the struggle to continue. I don't hear him chatting about the Arab world and how women are treated like dogs, or how divided the social class is. The sheikhs and princes sleep in their wealth and don't do a damn thing to help the civilians. But because Israel is a Jewish state, let's just target them instead.

[Chino]

(07-07-2011 05:36 AM)a-k Wrote:  What I'm saying is he's biased. He talks equality, but ignores major aspects that are allowing the struggle to continue. I don't hear him chatting about the Arab world and how women are treated like dogs, or how divided the social class is. The sheikhs and princes sleep in their wealth and don't do a damn thing to help the civilians. But because Israel is a Jewish state, let's just target them instead.

ignores? hardly, and who's business in the case of israel really is? in my opinion those palestinians need it more than some parts of the arab world.

here's a tactic a good friend of mine told me about:
" many reasons the oppressors attack smaller and more weaker countries and nations. by controlling many at a time, and by supporting the right dictators or allies they can keep much of the 3rd world and their enemies under its iron grip. if one country manages to free themselves from the opression, and the oppressor,
then what can it say about the oppressor? they are not invincible, they can be defeated"

[a-k]

(07-07-2011 06:37 AM)Chino Wrote:  here's a tactic a good friend of mine told me about:
" many reasons the oppressors attack smaller and more weaker countries and nations. by controlling many at a time, and by supporting the right dictators or allies they can keep much of the 3rd world and their enemies under its iron grip. if one country manages to free themselves from the opression, and the oppressor,
then what can it say about the oppressor? they are not invincible, they can be defeated"

Thank you for supporting my point. Israel has been attacked from all sides (all of which are bigger countries) on numerous occasions. Israel controlled Gaza, and ever since they pulled out the place has become a dump run by terrorist organizations who are more concerned about fighting a religious war than caring about their people (and don't even try to deny this...human shields, are you kidding me?)

[Chino]

(07-07-2011 07:05 AM)a-k Wrote:  

(07-07-2011 06:37 AM)Chino Wrote:  here's a tactic a good friend of mine told me about:
" many reasons the oppressors attack smaller and more weaker countries and nations. by controlling many at a time, and by supporting the right dictators or allies they can keep much of the 3rd world and their enemies under its iron grip. if one country manages to free themselves from the opression, and the oppressor,
then what can it say about the oppressor? they are not invincible, they can be defeated"

Thank you for supporting my point. Israel has been attacked from all sides (all of which are bigger countries) on numerous occasions. Israel controlled Gaza, and ever since they pulled out the place has become a dump run by terrorist organizations who are more concerned about fighting a religious war than caring about their people (and don't even try to deny this...human shields, are you kidding me?)

Dear A-k,

sadly, as much as my friend's quote was to be certain, it was never meant to support any point.

the smaller, weaker countries i had made reference to are in south america, AKA: "america's backyard"
the country i had made reference as the one to break the iron grip of "america" was cuba, by the cuban revolution in which threw out bastista a dictator supported by the united states in the 50's


now on the issue with "israel"

is "israel" really oppressed?

im afraid not:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_%E2%..._relations

that link although it is questioned by some of the members in this group, gives a basic idea of the US-Israel relationship.

also i think this to be a good point here:

thats not thousands.... thats millions of dollars.

those prince's and sheiks that you have made allegations to? they are funded as well.

http://www.politicolnews.com/us-global-a...atorships/


The oppressed have no armies to defend their homelands with, no say in economic debates and negotiations, no human rights given to them at any point in their lives
you know what? i'll let the dictionary explain for me

the muthafucking dictionary Wrote:OPPRESSION:

1. the exercise of authority or power in a burdensome, cruel, or unjust manner.

2. defined as an act or instance of oppressing, the state of being oppressed, and the feeling of being heavily burdened, mentally or physically, by troubles, adverse conditions, and anxiety.

now tell me, does israel fit under the basic definition of Oppression, the very defintion in which lies in the dictionary i hold in my hands at this point?

(07-07-2011 07:05 AM)a-k Wrote:  Israel controlled Gaza, and ever since they pulled out the place has become a dump run by terrorist organizations who are more concerned about fighting a religious war than caring about their people (and don't even try to deny this...human shields, are you kidding me?)

Israeli IDF soldiers use human shields,what you don't believe me?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/jan/02/israel1

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/mar/09/israel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXq57XK2L0A


next time , do try to find some evidence that Israel is oppressed, that terrorist organizations are using kids as human shields, and above all Listen to what IT actually says in the new track.

peace

[RapAddict95]

Drop the religion shit. He's not attacking Israel because they're Jewish, but because they murder women and children for land, they kill people who have nothing but rocks for weapons. How is Israel oppressed?

(07-07-2011 01:01 AM)a-k Wrote:  The sheikhs and princes sleep in their wealth and don't do a damn thing to help the civilians.

He recognises that actually:
"But when I'm gone they'll sing a song about Immortal Technique
Who beheaded the President, and the princes and sheiks
You don't give a fuck about us, I can see through your facade"
- The 4th Branch

[a-k]

Clearly you need me to pull out the definition of sarcasm, but no, I don't need to resort to tactics like that. And don't try to bring the USA into the discussion, 'cause that country has enough of its own problems.

1. the exercise of authority or power in a burdensome, cruel, or unjust manner.
Check out how the 1973 War started. If that wasn't a low blow then I don't know how you can say anything is unjust in this world.

Re your first article: Chris McGreal is one of the biggest anti-semites. "But a-k, the people are real in his story." Search up Andrew Wakefield. Fraud CAN get published.

Re your second and third articles: You know what, I will use the dictionary.

the muthafucking dictionary Wrote:A person or a group of people who are placed or located in a potential line of fire.

Didn't quite see any of that in the video. Take the time to watch this


But wait, it's partisan because it's Israeli.

I mean have you ever been to any of those countries? Compare Israel to Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, etc. and you'll see what kind of people run those counties. Israel puts their money into both development and defence, the rest put it all on "attack and drive Israel scum into the sea."

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(07-07-2011 08:40 AM)RapAddict95 Wrote:  Drop the religion shit. He's not attacking Israel because they're Jewish, but because they murder women and children for land, they kill people who have nothing but rocks for weapons. How is Israel oppressed?

(07-07-2011 01:01 AM)a-k Wrote:  The sheikhs and princes sleep in their wealth and don't do a damn thing to help the civilians.

He recognises that actually:
"But when I'm gone they'll sing a song about Immortal Technique
Who beheaded the President, and the princes and sheiks
You don't give a fuck about us, I can see through your facade"
- The 4th Branch

Thanks for being polite. I haven't heard all his songs, so thanks.
But nothing but rocks for weapons? Please.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian..._on_Israel
Between 2001 and January 2009, over 8,600 rockets had been launched, leading to 28 deaths and several hundred injuries, as well as widespread psychological trauma and disruption of daily life. Attacks have been carried out by all Palestinian armed groups, and, prior to the 2008–2009 Gaza War, were consistently supported by most Palestinians, although the stated goals have been mixed. The attacks, widely condemned for targeting civilians, have been described as terrorism by United Nations, European Union and Israeli officials, and are defined as war crimes by human rights groups Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.

[Chino]

i'd ask you the same question myself, Have you been in any of the countries you listed in?

[Seraph]

(07-07-2011 08:47 AM)a-k Wrote:  I mean have you ever been to any of those countries? Compare Israel to Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, etc. and you'll see what kind of people run those counties. Israel puts their money into both development and defence, the rest put it all on "attack and drive Israel scum into the sea."
He recognises that actually:

But nothing but rocks for weapons? Please.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian..._on_Israel
Between 2001 and January 2009, over 8,600 rockets had been launched, leading to 28 deaths and several hundred injuries, as well as widespread psychological trauma and disruption of daily life. Attacks have been carried out by all Palestinian armed groups, and, prior to the 2008–2009 Gaza War, were consistently supported by most Palestinians, although the stated goals have been mixed. The attacks, widely condemned for targeting civilians, have been described as terrorism by United Nations, European Union and Israeli officials, and are defined as war crimes by human rights groups Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.

Oh yes, Israel is a cute peace loving democracy, right? No, it's a racist apartheid terrorist state, and this is a fact. That whole "they want to drive us into the sea" shit is ridiculous.

And besides the rocks they have awesome home made rockets that scare the shit out of one of the most advanced militaries in the world... oh wait? Also bullshit.

The "attacks" from the palestinians are reactions to israeli terror, so if Israel stops its racist terrorist policies, well, they would not be "attacked."

The oppressor playing the victim is simply retarded.

I wonder if this soldier is threatened by the old lady?

[RapAddict95]

Fuuuuuucccckkk, he just punched her, what a bitch.

[a-k]

(07-07-2011 11:02 AM)Seraph Wrote:  The "attacks" from the palestinians are reactions to israeli terror, so if Israel stops its racist terrorist policies, well, they would not be "attacked."

It's a good thing Israel isn't stupid enough to listen to people like you, because that's how WW3 would start.

And if we're going to use a single person to represent a population (idiotic, I know), then I'll fight your video with this one.

[Introcluse]

both sides do cuntish shit

acknowledge it and move on