Did illuminati killed rapper pimp c ?

[LusciousC]

(11-07-2009 03:11 PM)Dumbat Wrote:  Pimp C had a very limited audience, I can't imagine that if he was still alive the illuminati would be under threat any more than now. They had alot to lose if found out, and nothing to gain as there would always be people talking about it.

Some people just die naturally, it's tragic but he was one of them.

I think you are nuts or just don't know what you are talking about. Pimp C and Bun-B (UGK) had a wide audience. They have been underground for years and their music was still known and played everywhere in te U.S.

[El Mono]

Yeah the er, Pimp Emcees have a lot of political/religious influence and will overthrow the Illuminati if needed!

If they were even real, they'd have bigger targets, this is all crap to me in all honesty.

[PhuckTheIlluminati]

(01-21-2010 07:39 PM)El Mono Wrote:  Yeah the er, Pimp Emcees have a lot of political/religious influence and will overthrow the Illuminati if needed!

If they were even real, they'd have bigger targets, this is all crap to me in all honesty.

Rappers and other artists are what I would think is there biggest threat,
they're the only people that have a big enough audience that is actually listening to what they are saying, only other people that have speech exposure like that is basically the government and they are all mostly Illuminati so can't count on them. Plus rappers can say what ever they want in there rhyme's.
Edit: TV does have exposure also but there show would get quickly canceled if they talked badly or even at all about the Illuminati. (I'm guessing on all of this, I'm using common sense)

Also, anyone that has more exposure or is creating a bigger threat would be killed faster I'm guessing. I believe princess Diana was a victim of the Illuminati.

[Gezus]

^ what a coincidence . my sister was searching stuff up on princess Diana last night and tonight for school or something. didn't her brakes suspiciously go out when she was on one of them roads that have cliffs...

I heard she was extremely beautiful and a nice person...

[Dumbat]

(04-20-2010 06:01 AM)PhuckTheIlluminati Wrote:  Rappers and other artists are what I would think is there biggest threat,
they're the only people that have a big enough audience that is actually listening to what they are saying, only other people that have speech exposure like that is basically the government and they are all mostly Illuminati so can't count on them. Plus rappers can say what ever they want in there rhyme's.
Edit: TV does have exposure also but there show would get quickly canceled if they talked badly or even at all about the Illuminati. (I'm guessing on all of this, I'm using common sense)

Also, anyone that has more exposure or is creating a bigger threat would be killed faster I'm guessing. I believe princess Diana was a victim of the Illuminati.

Most of the music industry is regulated by the corperations and labels. Underground music doesn't have a large enough audience to be a problem.

No-one as powerful as you claim the illuminati are would be afraid of any one person or group. Even if they couldn't silence them they could discredit them pretty quickly.

Plus, even if we found out tomorrow that they did rule the world, you really think people would instantly rise up? People are fat and happy, they don't care, apathy is the new revolution.

[Rozc]

Dumbat, you heard of word of mouth? Immortal has a huge fan base, and that fan base will be influenced and start rapping about this shit themselves. Not only that, but they will tell their friends and/or anyone that cares. An everlasting loophole.

Gezuz, I head she was killed because she was marrying someone that wasn't white. Thus 'corrupting the British monarchy'...

[Albliteration]

(01-11-2010 11:52 PM)shakur420 Wrote:  ^why so funny? You think Pac was killed by Suge???


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you talkin about? your right here. lol

The Illuminati was a league of scientists back in the 1700s who were hunted and killed by the church,

they arent real anymore.

I do believe that, as coined by John Perkins (Confessions of an Economic Hitman) the Corporatocracy holds a hella lotta power, and will kill to maintain it.

but thats just me.

[LeZombee]

There is no empirical evidence of the Illuminati. Its all innuendo and situational evidence.

[PIMPIN ROCC]

I implore all of you to re-educate yourself. The truth of the matter is most of the drugs, chemicals, and diseases that have claimed the lives of millions of people around the world can be attributted to a longstanding population control matrix. Created by the elite in plain sight (right before your very eyes). Did the illuminati kill pimp C? The answer is simple; directly, no! Indirectly, yes! No one can tell you what the matrix is, you have to see it for yourself. Read the following to understand the matrix and its ramifications.



by Alfred Mendes

01Jul06

revised by the author 24th July 2006

from Bilderberg Website



Eugenics (Greek for 'good birth') is the study of methods to improve the human race by controlled selective breeding - bolstered by its concomitant term 'population control'.

The colonization of the so-called ‘under-developed’, poorer countries of this world by the more ‘developed’ capitalist-orientated countries (primarily European), benefited the latter greatly - at the expense of the former. Slavery was one of the more tragic outcomes - another being that the colonizers were now imbued with racist perceptions, which led to widespread usage within the English-speaking countries of such derogatory terms as: ‘niggers/coons’; ‘coolies’; ‘wogs/rag-heads’; ‘yids’ - and-the-like.

Organizations reflecting this were subsequently set up, and the fact that the membership lists of these organizations flaunt the names of very influential politicians/statesmen, business tycoons and bankers, surely calls for a closer look at the matter. And because of America’s currently leading role in this matter, it is necessary to recall that she gained ‘independence’ as the United States of America after much infighting between the colonizers (primarily British) who had invaded that country of Indian Tribes - which led to genocidal attacks on those ‘Red Indians’. A story not unlike Britain’s colonization of Australia, with its indigenous Aborigines.

As a backdrop to this, in 1798, an English clergyman-cum-economist, Thomas Robert Malthus published a theory with eugenic (a term not then used) overtones, arguing that an un-planned population grew faster than food production - adding that famine and poverty were God's way of coping with man's laziness. This was a theory much-welcomed by the colonizers and the organizations mentioned above.

Moreover, the close relationship noted above between Corporate America (with its ‘Skull and Bones’-ridden Administration) and Nazi/fascist Germans makes a mockery of the former’s claim to democracy. Using eugenicists’ terminology, they could more accurately be described as ‘crypto-democrats' (fascists).



The definition of 'Fascism' in a dictionary is,

“a philosophy or system of government that advocates or exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with the ideology of belligerent nationality".

In plain English: capitalism lies at the core of fascism. But, as noted above, this is a fact which must be hidden by these global capitalists.

This article will consider three such organizations:

the Order of the Skull & Bones

the Eugenic Societies

Population Control organizations,

...in a more-or-less chronological order, thereby leading to a more rational grasp of the subject matter.

Of the three, the Skull & Bones (of Yale University) was the earliest formed. 'The Order', as it is referred to by its members, bears the aura of secrecy and freemasonry, and is a bastion of White Anglo Saxon Protestant (WASP) culture, wealth and influence.



A partial list of its more prominent members reflects said influence:

The Russell Family

Alphonso Taft

William Howard Taft (his son)

Henry Lewis Stimson

Averell Harriman

Robert A Lovett (partner of merged Brown Brothers Harriman in1926)

Harold Stanley (of Morgan Stanley)

Robert A. Taft

Prescott Bush Snr.

George Herbert Walker Bush

G.W. Bush (former President)

McGeorge Bundy (National Security Advisor to JFK)

the Heinz family - et al

In other words, the 'corporate establishment', as it is more popularly known.

The following very brief story of its birth is intriguing, to put it mildly:

In 1823, using the old pirates' 'Skull & Crossbones' as its logo, Samuel Russell founded an opium-smuggling company, Russell & Co. - and by 1829, he had bought out the Perkins & Co., which had controlled the smuggling of Turkish opium into China since 1789. In 1833, Samuel's second cousin, William Huntington Russell and Alphonso Taft (who had served as Secretary of War under President Rutherford B. Hayes) founded the Order of Skull & Bones.


In 1856, said William Huntington Russell (who had been valedictorian of his class at Yale in 1833) incorporated Skull & Bones as the 'Russell Trust Association'. It must be recalled here that the opium trading noted above was still being run by the British East India Company (BEIC) - Britain then being the great empire-builder - and that without Britain's collaboration Russell & Co. would have collapsed.



Simply put - the birth of Skull & Bones (whose members are more commonly known as the 'Bonesmen') - was paid for by opium drug-smuggling! While on the subject of Russell & Co., it is intriguing to note that Warren Delano Jnr. (grandfather of that popular 'democrat', FDR), though not a 'Bonesman' - while acting as US Vice-Consul in Canton, acted as Chief of Operations for Russell during the Opium War of 1839 - '42, which resulted in the legalization of opium in China, and the acquisition of Hong Kong by the British.


In the 1860's, Francis Galton (a cousin of Charles Darwin) took this Malthusian theory (see above) a step further: in his own words he defined 'Eugenics' ( a word he coined) as,

"the science of improvement of the human race germ plasm through better breeding" - adding that the poor were biologically inferior - and he further advocated state intervention to solve the problem.



In 1904, he founded a research chair in eugenics at University College of London University.


In 1905, Dr. Alfred Ploetz and Dr. Ernst Rudin founded the Society of Race-Hygiene in Germany. (about which, more later).


In 1907, the Eugenic Education Society (which later became the Eugenic Society) was founded in England.


In 1910, the Eugenics Record Office (ERO) was founded in America. In their own words, the ERO felt that "ultimate economic betterment should be sought by breeding better people, not fewer of the existing sort."


In 1912, the First International Eugenics Congress was held at London University. It demonstrated the growing strength of the movement especially in England, Germany and the United States. The opening speech at this congress was given by Arthur James Balfour, who had been British Prime Minister from 1902 - 5; and, as Foreign Secretary under Lloyd George from 1916 - '19, made a deal with the Zionists whereby Britain would support the setting up of a 'home' for the Jews, in return for the Zionists using their considerable political clout to persuade America to enter the war against Germany. (Britain was by then in dire economic straits).



This secular Zionist group of Ashkenazi Jews were surely not entitled to a 'homeland' in Palestine, as their country of origin had been the Khazar Empire (which had adopted Judaism) of southern Russia.


In 1916, Margaret Sanger opened the first birth control clinic in the United States. It was renamed the Planned Parenthood Federation of America in 1942. She wrote:

" the unbalance between the birth rate of the 'unfit' and the 'fit' is admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization ... The most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective."


In 1922, the American Eugenics Society was founded. One of its co-founders, Henry Laughlin (who had been Superintendent of the Eugenics Record Office from l910 to 1921) later became President of the Pioneer Fund, a white supremacist organization. Another co-founder, Dr. Henry Fairfield Osborn, in 1923, during a national debate on restricting immigration, spoke enthusiastically about the results of intelligence testing carried out by the Army:

"I believe those tests were worth what the war (World War I) cost, even in human life...We have learned once and for all that the Negro is not like us."



He also became president of the Pioneer Fund from 1947 to 1956.

Well documented is the fact that in between WW1 and WW2, Prescott Bush Snr. - as an executive of W.A.Harriman & Co. (later becoming Brown Bros. Harriman) - had, through a number of mergers with German companies, helped finance Hitler's Nazi regime. Furthermore, in 1926, as a board member of bankers Dillon Read, Major (as he then was) William Draper co-operated with W.A. Harriman & Co. (Prescott S. Bush Snr. was Vice-President then) in the handling of the corporate banking for Fritz Thyssen's German Steel Trust. Thyssen had helped to fund the Nazi Party.



By 1931, sterilization laws had been enacted in 27 states in the United States, and by 1935 enacted in Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Switzerland and Germany. As for Germany: as noted above, Ploetz and Rudin had set out an effective eugenics program which resulted in the tragic killing of millions of Jews, communists et al. by the Nazi Regime of Hitler. In fact, Rudin had been the chief architect of Law for the Prevention of Hereditary Disease in Posterity passed July 1933 four months after Hitler came to power. An intriguing aside: as noted in the Rockefeller Foundation Annual Reports 1928 1939, Rockefeller gave money for the "Kaiser Wilhelm Institute" and thus subsidized Rudin.



From 1932 - 1972, the US Public Health Service studied the natural history of syphilis in hopes of justifying treatment programs for blacks. It was called the "Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male", and involved 600 black men--399 with syphilis and 201 who did not have the disease. Researchers told the men they were being treated for "bad blood". In fact, the men were never given adequate treatment for their disease. Even when penicillin became the drug of choice for syphilis in 1947, researchers did not offer it to the subjects. In 1972, as a result of a New York Times article, an Ad Hoc Advisory panel reviewed the study and found that the Tuskegee Study was "ethically unjustified".


In August 1932 - and financed by the eugenicist, Major William Draper (see above) - the third "International Conference on Eugenics" was held in New York's American Museum of Natural History under the supervision of the International Federation of Eugenics Societies. The proceedings were dedicated to Averell Harriman's mother, who had financed the foundation of the Eugenics Record Office back in 1910 (see above). Dr. Ernst Rudin (see above) travelled to attend the Congress via the Hamburg-Amerika line (owned by W.A. Harriman & Co) - and was unanimously elected president of the International Federation of Eugenics Societies!

A few years after WW 2, Professor Dr. Otmar Freiherr von Verschuer, who, in 1937,had been Director of the Third Reich Institute for Heredity, Biology and Racial Purity (and Josef Mengele's mentor) founded the Institute of Human Genetics in Munster, and also became a foreign member of the American Eugenics Society.

The setting up of the state of Israel by the Zionists in 1948 was an irrational act (as implied above), the main beneficiary being America, which would now have a well-armed, suborned ally in an Arab region rich in oil. The resulting deaths of the many Arabs at the hands of the Israelis could have been stopped by America many years ago. That it was not stopped can only mean that it was in keeping with the policy of the eugenicist-dominated US Administration - after all, Arabs are merely 'ragheads'.


In 1950 and '51', John Foster Dulles, then chairman of the Rockefeller Foundation (later to be appointed Secretary of State by Eisenhower), led John D. Rockefeller III on a series of world tours, "focussing on the need to stop the expansion of the non-white populations". In 1952, Frederick Osborn (1889-1981) nephew of Henry Fairfield Osborn Sr. (see above), an officer of the American Eugenics Society/SSSB for more than 30 years, helped John D. Rockefeller III establish the Population Council in 1952, served as the council's first administrator and was on its board of trustees for many years.


In 1958, Eisenhower appointed Draper (see above) as head of a committee to study the proper course for military aid to other countries. Draper changed the focus of the committee and recommended that the US government react to the threat of the population explosion by formulating plans to depopulate the poorer countries, as the growth of the world's non-white population should be regarded as dangerous to the national security of the United States! Eisenhower had the sense to reject this.


In the1960's Draper founded the Population Crisis Committee and the Draper fund, and joined with the Rockefeller and Du Pont families to promote eugenics as population control...

While serving in Congress - and with Draper as his 'population expert' - George H.W. Bush chaired the Republican Task Force on Earth Resources and Population and invited Professors William Shockley and Arthur Jensen to explain to the committee how allegedly runaway birth-rates for African-Americans were down-breeding the American population. On August 5 1969, Bush summed up the testimony his black-inferiority advocates had given to the Task Force before Congress.

With the term 'eugenics' now, in the Post-War period, tainted with an aura of genocide and racism, Major General Frederick Osborn, founder member of both the American Eugenics Society and the Pioneer Fund, stated the public relations problem bluntly:

"Eugenic goals are most likely to be attained under a name other than eugenics."...



In other words, the goals must be camouflaged - it would now be known as crypto-eugenics. In 1960, the British Eugenics Society agreed with this, stating "The Society's activities in crypto-eugenics should be pursued vigorously..." - and adopted the proposal. In 1973, this resulted in the American Eugenics Society becoming the more academic-sounding 'Society for the Study of Social Biology'. Crypto-eugenics would now be the order-of-the-day.


On June 9th 1969, Dr.D.M. MacArthur, Deputy Director of Research & Technology for the Pentagon, requested a sum of $10 million from the Congressional House Subcommittee on Appropriations to develop a new contagious micro-organism capable of destroying the human immune system - in order to counteract any possible future virus capable of affecting said human immunity. It would therefore be necessary, first, to create such a virus!



This resulted in a 'virus' discovered some ten years later in America which became known as 'acquired immune deficiency syndrome' (AIDS). It should be stressed that this virus first appeared in America, and, as noted by Neville Hodgkinson on the website businessonline.com in May 2006: increasingly complex procedures were taken to diagnose this virus in a reliable manner - "but the basic problem - not being able to validate any of these procedures against pure virus taken from patients - still remains".



Furthermore, he reveals in comprehensive detail, that both the HIV tests and statistics concerning AIDS have been manipulated in a duplicitous manner. It would seem that the main beneficiaries have been the pharmaceutical firms!


In April 1974, Kissinger drew up a secret plan for population control called the 'National Security Plan of Action 200' (NSSM 200), which was endorsed by the National Security Decision Memorandum 314, and finally declassified in 1900. In brief, it claimed that population growth in the less-developed countries was "..creating political or even national security problems for the US", and it would seek help from the UN Fund for Population Activities (UNFPA founded in 1969) - but stressing that it would be under US leadership.



NB: this was at a time when America was being wracked by the Watergate scandal, as a result of which its president, Richard Nixon, had to resign. At the very least, it would seem that - in the eyes of the Administration - the policy of 'population control' stood high in its list of priorities. In August 1974, at a meeting in Bucharest, the UN passed a resolution adopting The World Population of Action as proposed by the US delegation. It would seem that US leadership was indeed essential! The UNFPA was to hold similar meetings at 10-year intervals thereafter.


On October 2nd 1979, Robert McNamara (President of the World Bank) addressed a group of international bankers thus:

"We can begin with the most critical problem of all, population growth" ..concluding that "..either the current birth rates must come down more quickly, or the death rates must go up...There are, of course, many ways in which the death rates can go up. In a thermonuclear age, we can accomplish it very quickly and decisively" (as indeed they had done in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in1945).



Not surprising statements, coming, as they do, from a man who was Secretary of Defense during the genocidal Vietnam War - but surprising in view of the crypto-eugenic stand taken by the American Eugenics Society noted above, a stand which McNamara, a self-evidently keen eugenicist, would have certainly been aware of. It can only be assumed that he did not agree with the society's stand, and was arrogant enough to ignore it.


In 1980, William Draper III (General Draper's son) served as co-chairman for financing G.H.W. Bush's campaign for the presidency that year. Reagan won and appointed Bush as his Vice President.


In 1986 - as a result of Vice President George H.W.Bush's advice to Reagan - William Draper III was appointed Administrator and CEO of the UN Development Program (UNDP), which was founded in 1965 by merging two existing U.N. organizations: the Expanded Program of Technical Assistance (EPTA), and the U.N. Special Fund. Since 1971, it has been responsible for coordinating all development assistance supplied by the United Nations system. UNDP was a key player in the global aid network - and the UNFPA (see above).

The foregoing is not a comprehensive list by any means - but is surely enough evidence that eugenics, population control (call it what you will) has played, and continues to play a crucial role in the policy-making of the so-called 'developed' countries - America in particular.

A recent event of pertinence follows: an earthquake of magnitude 9.0 on the Richter scale struck the Indian Ocean region on December 26th 2004, resulting in a Tsumani which killed approximately a quarter-of-a-million people. It was subsequently revealed that the Americans - with their European partners/acolytes - were aware of this earthquake almost immediately, as they controlled a number of seismic stations in the region (to say nothing of their earth-scouring satellites), the most important being the American military base on Diego Garcia.



However, they had not notified those countries threatened by the Tsunami. The only conclusion to be drawn from this is that this was a deliberate act on the part of the Euro-Americans, and, keeping in mind the chronological events listed above, it can justifiably be assumed that, in this instance, the eugenists and their cohort 'Bonesmen' had scored a hit!

Moreover, the close relationship noted above between Corporate America (with its 'Skull and Bones'-ridden Administration) and Nazi/fascist Germans makes a mockery of the former's claim to democracy. Using eugenicists' terminology, they could more accurately be described as 'crypto-democrats' (fascists).



The definition of 'Fascism' in a dictionary is "a philosophy or system of government that advocates or exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with the ideology of belligerent nationality". This, in turn, reveals that capitalism lies at the core of fascism. But, as noted above, this is a fact which must be hidden by these global capitalists.

It is therefore imperative that this subject of eugenics/population control is subjected to far greater public scrutiny than it has received from 'our media' - which, after all, is in hock to its corporate owners: it says what it is paid to say!

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the bush nazi coke moonie connection
by Nick Mamatas (nillo@agoron.com) - July 28, 2002

In April 1999, Texas Governor George W. Bush proclaimed a week of remembrance for the Holocaust. He said, "I urge Texans to never forget the inhumanity of those who perpetrated the Holocaust, and reflect upon our own humanity and our responsibility to respect all peoples." Good advice. He should reflect upon his own family, if he is interested in reflecting on inhumanity.

G.W.'s grandfather and great-grandfather, Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker, were among the chief American fundraisers for Germany's Nazi Party. Through industrialist Fritz Thyssen, the Bush-run Union Banking Company and W. A. Harriman & Company, the Bushes sold over $50 million in German bonds to American investors, starting in 1924. Thyssen in turn pumped money into the infant Nazi Party, which had proved its desire to rule and its willingness to use brute force in 1923's Munich Beer Hall Putsch.

George Walker, GW's great-grandfather, also set up the takeover of the Hamburg-America Line, a cover for I.G. Farben's Nazi espionage unit in the United States. In Germany, I.G. Farben was most famous for putting the gas in gas chambers; it was the producer of Zyklon B and other gasses used on victims of the Holocaust. The Bush family was not unaware of the nature of their investment partners. They hired Allen Dulles, the future head of the CIA, to hide the funds they were making from Nazi investments and the funds they were sending to Nazi Germany, rather than divest. It was only in 1942, when the government seized Union Banking Company assets under the Trading With The Enemy Act, that George Walker and Prescott Bush stopped pumping money into Hitler's regime.

George Bush, then an eighteen year-old man, held off entering Yale (a long-time Bush family destination, Prescott had graduated in 1917) to enter the military, perhaps to remove some of the tarnish from his family's honor. After the war, however, Bush joined the intelligence community and utilized his own connections to help fund drug runners from Laos to Panama. Most shocking was the so-called "cocaine coup" in Bolivia in June 1980, masterminded by fugitive Nazi Klaus Barbie, "The Butcher Of Lyons." Bush, as director of the CIA, had funneled enormous amounts of cash to drug runners including Manuel Noriega and helped in the destabilization of Argentina. Barbie, who had been previously secreted in Latin America by the CIA, began working closely with the Argentines and used drug money to finance a neo-Nazi cabal, one that succeeded in overthrowing the government. The troops swept through the capital wearing Nazi armbands, according to former DEA agent Mike Levine. They may as well have been wearing armbands portraying syringes, dollar bills and "Bush For President" buttons.

After the cocaine coup, the notorious Unification Church, the "Moonie" cult, began making inroads across Latin America. Among the first to arrive in La Paz after the Nazi/coke coup was Bo Hi Pak, Rev. Sun Myung Moon's right hand man. Moon had invested $4 million in the coup, it so turns out, and still had plenty of money left over to help finance George Bush's campaign for president in 1988. Moonie lieutenant Thomas Ward also acted as the go-between between Barbie and his CIA payrollers. The Moonies were also large funders of the Contras and heavy investors in Latin America generally. Bush is still in Moon's pocket: as recently as 1996, former President Bush flew to Argentina to appeal to Argentine president Carlos Menem to attend the gala celebration for Moon's latest right-wing newspaper. Bush has made hundreds of thousands of dollars stumping for Moon groups since leaving the Oval Office, and has been working to make sure GW Bush gets his share of drug-tainted, Nazi managed cult money for the latest Presidential campaign.

That is something we should all reflect on.

[Boboulas]

He overdosed!! Oobe dont tell me you actualy belive the illuminati killed a rapper.

Of all the things a powerful secret society would do is kill a rapper?? WHAT WOULD YOU GAIN. Its not like he was saying things like overthrow the government or was pro socalist or w/e. Look at it from a rational point of view for just a minute and you will see he wasnt killed by anyone but himself.

[ClichéGuevara]

It was a mix of codiene and sleep apnea. He mentioned "the secret societies of America" in one song. His fanbase was really just across Texas and some of the southern states and apparently 1 boy in Scotland. So he didn't have enough influence to be killed by your fabled Illuminati, which doesn't even exist in the sense everyone believes it to exist.

RIP Chad Butler

[noobd]

the illuminati is similar to god in the way people use them as substitutes for lacking empirical evidence.