'A Universe From Nothing' By Lawrence Krauss (2009)
09-16-2011, 02:55 AM
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RE: 'A Universe From Nothing' By Lawrence Krauss (2009)
(09-15-2011 02:17 AM)TheMythOfSisyphus Wrote:  Very interesting, guy is kind of cuntish though with every 30 seconds throwing out a "lolpeoplewhodontbelievewhatibelievesodumb". Even quoted Einstein and reassured us that he knows what Einstein said better than Einstein himself by changing the quote because he got butt hurt that he used the word God. All that aside, a magnificently interesting piece.

i read this from the bottom up and was so sure you were talking about introcluse!!!!!!!!!!! was ready to put that in my sig and everything. still thinking about editing out guy with introcluse and putting it in. idk tho, i don't think he really needs the publicity
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09-16-2011, 03:07 AM
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RE: 'A Universe From Nothing' By Lawrence Krauss (2009)
Lol. Lazarus like I said, just ignore Introcluse, if everyone just ignores him he will go away, or stop spouting his garbage. If he wants to act like a child then I will treat him as such, I don't have a problem if he says something rational and relevant, but him spouting his hurrdurrihatereligionbutitreatmyatheismasthoughitwasareligion memes is pathetic enough that he doesn't deserve acknowledgement.
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09-16-2011, 03:07 PM (This post was last modified: 09-16-2011 03:08 PM by Introcluse.)
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RE: 'A Universe From Nothing' By Lawrence Krauss (2009)
well with god, the idea of a god has credence becos billions believe it. The other things I listed are also myths, but they are fringe myths(which very few or nobody believes in) and people who publicly state they believe in those myths are ridiculed. Would you guys vote for a politician who publicly states he believes in dragon for example?

'myth' isn't necessarily a pejorative, it's just a word to describe anecdotes & entities which have zero factual basis like god and all other myths.
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09-16-2011, 05:28 PM (This post was last modified: 01-08-2013 03:50 PM by 1871.)
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The idea of science has credos because billions believe in it. Thats not a substabntive argument.

I am asking you to define God - not validate the opinions of billions of people.

If your definition of God is a myth then your God is a myth rather than something which has a basis in fact.

Introcluse - couldnt you make your arguments a little less repetitive -
some Nietzsche or Russell perhaps?
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09-16-2011, 07:54 PM
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i have no problem with an occasional, friendly fuck you to introcluse but let's not feed into his posts. he obviously isn't going to respond with reason
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09-16-2011, 07:56 PM
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RE: 'A Universe From Nothing' By Lawrence Krauss (2009)
(09-16-2011 05:28 PM)1871 Wrote:  The idea of science has credos bewcause billions believe in it. Thats not a substabntive argument.

I am asking you to define God - not validate the opinions of billions of people.

If your definition of God is a myth then your God is a myth rather than something which has a basis in fact.

Introcluse - couldnt you make your arguments a little less repetitive -
some Nietzsche or Russell perhaps?

God is dead. And Introcluse has killed him.
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09-16-2011, 09:09 PM
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RE: 'A Universe From Nothing' By Lawrence Krauss (2009)
(09-16-2011 07:56 PM)TheMythOfSisyphus Wrote:  
(09-16-2011 05:28 PM)1871 Wrote:  The idea of science has credos bewcause billions believe in it. Thats not a substabntive argument.

I am asking you to define God - not validate the opinions of billions of people.

If your definition of God is a myth then your God is a myth rather than something which has a basis in fact.

Introcluse - couldnt you make your arguments a little less repetitive -
some Nietzsche or Russell perhaps?


God is dead. And Introcluse has killed him.

Yes. He bored him to death.

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09-18-2011, 08:51 PM (This post was last modified: 09-18-2011 08:53 PM by Introcluse.)
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RE: 'A Universe From Nothing' By Lawrence Krauss (2009)
(09-16-2011 05:28 PM)1871 Wrote:  The idea of science has credos bewcause billions believe in it. Thats not a substabntive argument.

I am asking you to define God - not validate the opinions of billions of people.

If your definition of God is a myth then your God is a myth rather than something which has a basis in fact.

Introcluse - couldnt you make your arguments a little less repetitive -
some Nietzsche or Russell perhaps?

science is not based on beliefs, assumptions, intuitions etc.... it's provide facts based on hypothesis & experiments. A fact is something like 2 + 2 = 4. a fact is something like blood being burgundy red.

A belief is something like.....let's say you and a mate are high on weed and got into a room full of 50 people and you think you see a horse at the front, your mate thinks he is seeing an elephant and everybody else doesn't see anything. You seeing a horse and your mate seeing elephants would be BELIEFS.

As for defining god that is the responsibility of the claimant, if I went to a police station after getting beat up n assaulted and then wanted to press charges against the attacker , would I say ' hey officer your supposed to provide the description/identities of my attacker, not me ' !
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09-18-2011, 09:11 PM (This post was last modified: 09-18-2011 09:23 PM by Boboulas.)
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Quote:A fact is something like 2 + 2 = 4. a fact is something like blood being burgundy red.

2 notes of a guitar plus another 2 dont make 4 notes, it makes a chord. 2 ice cubes added to another 2 doesnt neccisarily make 4 ice cubes, it makes a puddle of water. This is actually a philosphical argument.

Colour is purely perception. The way you experiance red may be different for someone else, there for cant be a fact because you cant experiance reality for other people.

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09-18-2011, 09:14 PM
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HA^^^
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09-18-2011, 09:17 PM
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(09-18-2011 09:11 PM)Boboulas Wrote:  2 notes of a guitar plus another 2 dont make 4 notes, it makes a chord. 2 ice cubes added to another 2 doesnt neccisarily make 4 ice cubes, it makes a puddle of water. This is actually a philosphical argument.

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09-20-2011, 12:59 PM
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erm no ...

2 whole numbers plus 2 whole numbers always make 4 whole numbers.. how can this be tested.... well get 4 marbles...put 2 to one side and 2 to the other side, then put them together and bob's your aunty, you get 4 marbles !

bobulas... how about you write a book with the title '2 plus 2 doesn't always equal four' ? let's see what scholarly/academic credence a what publisher you get for it Smiley-grin
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